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Pope’s change to Catechism is not just a prudential judgment, but a rejection of dogma
LifeSite News ^ | August 3, 2018 | Peter Kwasniewski

Posted on 08/03/2018 11:20:26 AM PDT by ebb tide

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Pope Francis is obviously and sadly wedded to a conception of papal authority that has little to do with the First Vatican Council’s articulation of the papacy’s inherently conservative nature, by which it receives and transmits, in its integrity, the apostolic faith as it passes through the ages—growing in expression, yes, but not morphing into something different or opposed to itself.
1 posted on 08/03/2018 11:20:26 AM PDT by ebb tide
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“Pope Francis is not making a doctrinal statement about the illegitimacy always and everywhere of the death penalty but merely a prudential judgment about the inopportuneness of its use at this time in history.”

Has he said anything about the inopportuneness of the use of abortion at this time in history?


2 posted on 08/03/2018 11:28:04 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ebb tide

Honestly, I simply do not understand how the Catholic church has not run this heretic out on a rail. I mean this guy is so over the top bad, and yet no one seems to be able to say or do anything about it.


3 posted on 08/03/2018 11:28:57 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: DuncanWaring
Pope’s change to Catechism is not just a prudential judgment, but a rejection of dogma

I am a practicing 50's Catholic and I can proudly say this...

NOT MY POPE!

4 posted on 08/03/2018 11:36:28 AM PDT by publius911 (Rule by Fiat-Obama's a Phone and a Pen)
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To: ebb tide

Simplicio is trying to have it both ways. A logician he is not.


5 posted on 08/03/2018 11:45:49 AM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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To: ebb tide

The Catholic Church's greatest political fear is a third reformation. And yet, with connivances like this, they act contrary to that fear. Perhaps it is time to #WalkAway.


6 posted on 08/03/2018 11:49:31 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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That is, to state that the death penalty is inadmissible for theoretical reasons, as we have seen is the Pope’s position, is contrary to established dogma, and therefore formally heretical.
7 posted on 08/03/2018 11:52:24 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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The pope is first and foremost a liberal. His current job is to be a clown with a pointy hat and red shoes in Rome. He is certainly not fit to be the successor of Peter, and must resign.

He has not condemned abortion or the gay cardinal orgy in the Vatican.


8 posted on 08/03/2018 12:02:12 PM PDT by I want the USA back (This week's hypocritical hysteria: Manafort/Russia Probe again!)
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To: ebb tide

“this time in history”

Isn’t the probability of a wrongful execution smaller now than ever before? If so why now?


9 posted on 08/03/2018 12:32:18 PM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: ebb tide

Am I going to get a copy of the new page and instructions how to replace the now deficient page in my Catechism? There is some precedent for that in the appropriate sources.


10 posted on 08/03/2018 12:39:53 PM PDT by arthurus (1 2 3 2 i z 3)
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To: publius911

I wonder if there is not a sort of sub-Schism in the Church now due to this “pope?”


11 posted on 08/03/2018 12:41:01 PM PDT by arthurus (1 2 3 2 i z 3)
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To: ebb tide

It seems to me that the best explanation is that someone in the Vatican is trying to take some heat off of the liberals in the U.S. hierarchy by diverting some of the energy that could be put into treeing the hierarchy over the McCarrick scandal, which looks to have the potential to finally blow open a coven of corruption.

Of the two dozen or so nations that actually executed people in 2017, with more than 2500 judicial executions, only three of them, Belarus (2), the South Sudan (4), and the U.S. (23), even have Christian majorities. South Sudan has the highest Catholic percentage (37%) as well as the highest per-capita execution rate (they have a population of 12 million, Belarus a population of 9).

They also have a per-capita income of under $760 dollars.

It would be interesting to make an argument from the perspective of South Sudan, but somehow I don’t think that this thing is being addressed here, or at China, where the majority of the executions occur, or at the Islamic nations that account for nearly all of the executions outside of China.

I think U.S. Catholics are being trolled.


12 posted on 08/03/2018 12:43:54 PM PDT by Hieronymus ((It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: ebb tide
Good grief dude.....give it a rest already with this topic.
13 posted on 08/03/2018 1:47:59 PM PDT by ealgeone
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You seem to be quite interested in all articles I post, caucused or not.

Why don’t you stalk elsewhere?


14 posted on 08/03/2018 1:55:14 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
You seem to be quite interested in all articles I post, caucused or not.

Nope...but when you plaster the Religion Forum with seemingly every article you can get your hands on, it's not hard to miss.

Why don’t you stalk elsewhere?

Still living under that delusion....

We get you hate the pope....even though you have to obey him per Unam Sanctam....which you refuse to do.

You're your own little luther.

Oh...and get that help, ebb....and soon.

15 posted on 08/03/2018 1:58:49 PM PDT by ealgeone
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We get you hate the pope....

How many of you are in that head of yours?

16 posted on 08/03/2018 2:06:24 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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>>We get you hate the pope....<<

How many of you are in that head of yours?

Everyone who sees your incessant posts against your pope.

17 posted on 08/03/2018 2:11:21 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: arthurus

I wonder if someone could explain the difference between this pope and Arius the heretic?


18 posted on 08/03/2018 2:15:31 PM PDT by Bookshelf (`)
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To: ealgeone

Since when do you post for “everyone”.

Sounds kind of pompous.

What’s up with your brohood with Bergoglio that you defend him so much?


19 posted on 08/03/2018 2:17:47 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Bookshelf

Arius wasn’t both a pope and a heretic.


20 posted on 08/03/2018 2:21:01 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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