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When Churches Become Scenes of Sexual Abuse: Why Does It Happen?
Townhall ^ | 08/16/2018 | Haley Halverson

Posted on 08/16/2018 9:46:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: dsc
Not entirely.

There was a belief that as long as you were a "celibate" sodomite that it was ok for you to be allowed to be a priest.

It was just the action that was sinful.

The problem is that the mind set leads to the sin.

61 posted on 08/16/2018 12:33:16 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: dsc

I’m sure they will get over it.


62 posted on 08/16/2018 12:33:36 PM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: SeekAndFind

How does this compare to, say, the Los Angeles School District?


63 posted on 08/16/2018 12:35:07 PM PDT by LimitedPowers (Citizenship is not a Hate Crime!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“There was a belief that as long as you were a “celibate” sodomite that it was ok for you to be allowed to be a priest.”

The Lavender Mafia did spread that, but it was never part of the Catholic Church. Not canon law, not the Catechism, not dogma, not Scripture. Just part of the attack.


64 posted on 08/16/2018 12:36:00 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: chris37

Are you? What does eternity mean to you?


65 posted on 08/16/2018 12:37:18 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: dsc
No such decision was made by the Catholic Church....We are talking about an attack on the Church, not actions by the Church.

Correct. Which is why I used the small "c" churches. My comment was referring to all Christian churches. The Catholic Church has remained steadfast in condemning homosexuality as matter of doctrine in terms that the protestant sects can not approach. That we have been purposely infiltrated by the sodomite minions of satan is why we find ourselves embroiled in the present scandal.
66 posted on 08/16/2018 12:39:00 PM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: mewzilla
Not all of the perps were homosexual.

Nah. Just +80% of them.
67 posted on 08/16/2018 12:39:41 PM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: Antoninus

Sorry if I misunderstood you.


68 posted on 08/16/2018 12:40:56 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: dsc

It means a long time without pervert priests, mkay.


69 posted on 08/16/2018 12:43:36 PM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Oh come on now. The RC doesn’t have a lock on this stuff. So we have less? That makes it better?

OK...so tell me. What other church has a largely gay, male unmarried clergy that rapes young boys in anything close to the numbers seen in the catholic church? What other church refuses to turn those offenders over to secular authorities?

The 300 priests mentioned in the PA grand jury's report are just the tip of the ice berg.

70 posted on 08/16/2018 12:56:43 PM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority STILL Stands With TRUMP! WWG1WGA)
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To: pgkdan

So we have less? That makes it better?


I repeat.


71 posted on 08/16/2018 12:58:13 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Its not a scene of abuse. What a silly thing to call it.

It’s a crime scene.

If the church understood that. If the police treated it that way. If the parishioners knew...the problem would have been a 1 and done.


72 posted on 08/16/2018 1:02:31 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Antoninus
.....”The problem is not really with the priests”....

Yes it is unfortunately, if they're not participating in the actual behavior they certainly know those who do. It is not a secret the Priesthood attracts predators of all kinds of perverted behaviors... because of the protections the leaderships is well known to offer such ones.

73 posted on 08/16/2018 1:06:43 PM PDT by caww
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To: PeterPrinciple

The Catholic Church IS alone in condoning the acts, transferring the perps, and covering up the mess.

Name another international organization that has had this type of action and they have NOT cooperated with the police and parents, and where they transferred Senior Managers to Rome (Cardinal Law) to avoid prosecution.

Name another organization where there were 99 pedos in the confined boundaries of a US city who were protected by this organization.

I would be interested in hearing these stories about repeated high level coverups.


74 posted on 08/16/2018 1:07:21 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: PeterPrinciple

No, you are saying—over and over that this happens everywhere. We are asking you to tell us where, and how it was systematically covered up AT THIS RATE or to this degree.

I understand defending your institutions. I understand not every priest is a perv. I just don’t understand why the hierarchy of the church continues to hide and obfuscate.

THAT is what has most people angry and disappointed. Your endless defense and deflection simply confounds people and appears that you have your eyes closed, hands on your early and singing la, la,la.


75 posted on 08/16/2018 1:12:30 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: PGR88

This crap was going on in the late sixties and early 70’s literally at the end of my street. The priest that molested my friends was moved to another parish. He molested kids there.

Then he was moved to another part of the country. Where he molested boys. Then they moved him back here. This time he got caught red handed.

It was around this time, when my friend was supposedly away for a retreat weekend, the 12 year old boy was found bludgeoned to death under a bridge. All leads went to the priest, but all physical evidence washed away and he DA swept it away. The DA was very close to the Bishop.

So, talking about this stuff in the context of “today” is about 40 years too late.

To any reasonable person, it is difficult to dream that the Bishops and Cardinals did not know about this. They knew. They ALL knew. What was the directive that was so strong that it kept the good men from going to the police?

This has nothing to do with current acceptance of homos. The RC Church has been run by homos for a long time.


76 posted on 08/16/2018 1:21:23 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: miss marmelstein

You are serious?

How many is enough. How many homo rapists are OK per diocese? Why were they not turned over to the police? Why were they moved around?

If we were talking about 4 in a state, I imagine that might fall into “normal distribution.” If we were talking about a few arrests over 40 years, that could be explained away.

These people were monsters. And they were protected by an organized conspiracy.

You cannot seriously believe this is ALL anti catholic bigotry?


77 posted on 08/16/2018 1:26:30 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: caww
Yes it is unfortunately

Did you actually read what I said? The priests are, by and large, the victims of an out of control homosexual (or homosexual friendly) episcopacy. Until those creatures can be smoked out, nothing will change.
78 posted on 08/16/2018 1:29:49 PM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: dsc

But they were passed from one place to another. They were not stopped. Why not?

Why are they above the law? It’s not the failure of men and their desires, it’s the failure of management to not stop it—and thus allow it to happen more and more.

THAT is the failure of the RC Church that is the most horrific part of this.


79 posted on 08/16/2018 1:31:20 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: SeekAndFind

No. You tell me. I have made my opinion known. Your turn.


80 posted on 08/16/2018 1:38:24 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The denial of the authority of God is the central plank of the Progressive movement.)
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