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To: ravenwolf
I have not even seen petros or Petra in the scripture,

Read the GREEK.

It's there if you are willing to look.

131 posted on 08/25/2018 12:52:01 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: metmom

It’s there if you are willing to look.


I can`t read Greek, but we do not need the Greek because Jesus told Simon in his Aramaic that he would be called Cephas, which means rock.

Since it means stone in Greek the only reason petros would even come into play would be to confuse the issue.

Stone and rock has the same meaning and most likely petros has the same meaning except for the people who can not stand the idea of Simon being called rock.

Even Paul called Simon Cephas ( rock )no less than five times.

So i prefer to translate the language that Jesus spoke, which is most likely Aramaic into English then we have his exact words.

Cephas = Rock, Stone =Rock, Petros = Rock, Kepha = Rock, Kaypha = Rock.

New International Version
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

New Living Translation
Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means ‘rock’), and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it.

English Standard Version
And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Berean Study Bible
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it.

Berean Literal Bible
And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades not will prevail against it.

New American Standard Bible
“I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.

King James Bible
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Christian Standard Bible
And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.

Contemporary English Version
So I will call you Peter, which means “a rock.” On this rock I will build my church, and death itself will not have any power over it.

Good News Translation
And so I tell you, Peter: you are a rock, and on this rock foundation I will build my church, and not even death will ever be able to overcome it.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the forces of Hades will not overpower it.

International Standard Version
I tell you that you are Peter, and it is on this rock that I will build my congregation, and the powers of hell will not conquer it.

NET Bible
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.

New Heart English Bible
I also tell you that you are Peter, and on this Rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“Also I say to you, that you are Kaypha, and upon this stone I shall build my church, and the gates of Sheol will not withstand it.”

GOD’S WORD® Translation
You are Peter, and I can guarantee that on this rock I will build my church. And the gates of hell will not overpower it.

New American Standard 1977
“And I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades shall not overpower it.

Jubilee Bible 2000
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, a small rock and upon the large rock I will build my congregation {Gr. ekklesia – called out ones}, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against her.

King James 2000 Bible
And I say also unto you, That you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hades shall not prevail against it.

American King James Version
And I say also to you, That you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

American Standard Version
And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Darby Bible Translation
And I also, I say unto thee that thou art Peter, and on this rock I will build my assembly, and hades’ gates shall not prevail against it.

English Revised Version
And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

Webster’s Bible Translation
And I say also to thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church: and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Weymouth New Testament
And I declare to you that you are Peter, and that upon this Rock I will build my Church, and the might of Hades shall not triumph over it.

World English Bible
I also tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my assembly, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it.

Young’s Literal Translation
‘And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock, and upon this rock I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it;

I prefer to read English and it has no doubt been translated thousands of times and the ones recognized are above and not one of them gives a hint that the rock is anything other than Peter.

Thank you anyway.


132 posted on 08/27/2018 11:17:26 AM PDT by ravenwolf (Left lane drivers and tailgaters have the smallest brains in the world.)
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