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To: ealgeone; Biggirl; ebb tide; heterosupremacist; DiogenesLamp; NorthMountain; NRx; Jacquerie; ...
Thanks you for quoting Scripture again: this is excellent. GOD DOES NOT CHANGE.

Nobody's denying that this miracle of healing water helps attach Naaman to Israel and Israel's God, and that the healing is done by the power of God.

You've reemphasized something we already fully agree on.

But you're not comprehending another point here: that God uses secondary causes. This is normal for God. This is the way He goes about working through His creatures: blessed bread, blessed wine, blessed oil, a blessed staff for Aaron, blessed cloths touched by Paul, blessed waters of Siloam, waters of the Jordan, the Pharaoh's-Army-destroying waters of the Red Sea, waters flowing from the right side of the Temple, the sin-destroying waters of the Great Flood, the breathed-upon waters throughout the Bible, the soul-cleansing blood and water from the pierced heart of the Crucified One.

Here are commentaries on God's blessing of the Waters, by eminent Protestant teachers (Ellicott's Commentary, Cambridge Commentary, the Keil and Delitzsch Biblical Commentary; MacLaren's Expositions; Benson Commentary; Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary; Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible). These make reference to the healing miraculous waters in Ezekiel 47, and every one one of them comments on how God repeatedly and strikingly uses water to manifest His will and His healing and purifying power.

It is so plain I don't know how it could be plainer.

This is our prayer and faith seeing God's work in the use of His creature, water.

We use holy water through faith in God's (!) power. You could too, if you had this faith. GOD DOES NOT CHANGE.

44 posted on 08/24/2018 8:51:27 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Regarding the passage of Ezekiel 47 you posted in your link.....again, I post the verse in question in context.

1Then he brought me back to the door of the house; and behold, water was flowing from under the threshold of the house toward the east, for the house faced east. And the water was flowing down from under, from the right side of the house, from south of the altar. 2He brought me out by way of the north gate and led me around on the outside to the outer gate by way of the gate that faces east. And behold, water was trickling from the south side. 3When the man went out toward the east with a line in his hand, he measured a thousand cubits, and he led me through the water, water reaching the ankles. 4Again he measured a thousand and led me through the water, water reaching the knees. Again he measured a thousand and led me through the water, water reaching the loins. 5Again he measured a thousand; and it was a river that I could not ford, for the water had risen, enough water to swim in, a river that could not be forded. 6He said to me, “Son of man, have you seen this?” Then he brought me back to the bank of the river. 7Now when I had returned, behold, on the bank of the river there were very many trees on the one side and on the other. 8Then he said to me, “These waters go out toward the eastern region and go down into the Arabah; then they go toward the sea, being made to flow into the sea, and the waters of the sea become fresh. 9“It will come about that every living creature which swarms in every place where the river goes, will live. And there will be very many fish, for these waters go there and the others become fresh; so everything will live where the river goes. 10“And it will come about that fishermen will stand beside it; from Engedi to Eneglaim there will be a place for the spreading of nets. Their fish will be according to their kinds, like the fish of the Great Sea, very many. 11“But its swamps and marshes will not become fresh; they will be left for salt. 12“By the river on its bank, on one side and on the other, will grow all kinds of trees for food. Their leaves will not wither and their fruit will not fail. They will bear every month because their water flows from the sanctuary, and their fruit will be for food and their leaves for healing.” Ezekiel 47:1-12 NASB

You do understand this is a specific prophecy for Ezekiel for a specific time.....right??

Now, if you want to say this is applicable for today, then you will have to go back to Ezekiel 46:19-20 and reinstate the guilt offering and sin offering and grain offering.

Mrs D.....we're in the New Testament!

Christians, but I'm not sure about Roman Catholics, are NOT UNDER THE LAW.

God tells us to come to Him in faith.

You may want to read Romans 5 on this. It's good stuff.

Recall when Paul cast out the demon in the girl in Acts he didn't mix up a batch of "holy water".....he called the demon out in the name of Christ.

See, you've moved the argument again when the facts go against you.

45 posted on 08/24/2018 9:34:09 AM PDT by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Remember....this was the argument for "holy water".....used by a Roman Catholic.

Holy water has long been a powerful sacramental used by Christians. St. Teresa of Avila attested that “from long experience I have learned that there is nothing like holy water to put devils to flight.”

I showed you several examples in the NT where demons were cast out in the name of Christ.....not one used "holy water".

It is a later development of Roman Catholicism not attested to by Scripture.

I don't know if you've read her writings....she's has some very Gnostic tendencies....four degrees of prayer????

46 posted on 08/24/2018 9:49:21 AM PDT by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Very well said, Ma’am.


47 posted on 08/24/2018 10:13:26 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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