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Fr. James Martin Criticizes ‘Homophobic’ Pastors at WMOF
The National Catholic Register ^ | 8/23/18 | Christine Rousselle

Posted on 08/24/2018 7:30:05 PM PDT by marshmallow

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To: raiderboy
One thing the “church “must do is quit molesting little children. By the millions!!

You really haven't been following this issue closely, have you?

21 posted on 08/24/2018 9:18:13 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I -- a smelly sheep -- was told to "Make a mess." Game on.)
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To: irishjuggler

The Screwtape Letters is a primer on the “Fr.” Martin’s of the world.


22 posted on 08/24/2018 9:29:11 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: faithhopecharity

In a serious way!!


23 posted on 08/24/2018 10:07:19 PM PDT by pallmallman
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To: Jeff Chandler

Like a hawk Pedofilia in the”church “ is an organized child rape crime.


24 posted on 08/25/2018 3:30:10 AM PDT by raiderboy (Trump promised “shut down the government” in September; if no wall!!)
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To: dsc

No, I don’t see it as a reasonable possibility, either, for a variety of reasons. But a guy can dream.


25 posted on 08/25/2018 5:20:36 AM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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To: sitetest

“But a guy can dream.”

Oh, I do. Too much, probably.


26 posted on 08/25/2018 6:01:07 AM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: marshmallow

Never forget that queer loving Bergoglio allowed him to speak. He knew every word this faggot was going to say before hand and didn’t care because he agrees with him and Bergoglio could care less if homosexuality is destroying the Catholics Church.


27 posted on 08/25/2018 7:02:04 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness")
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To: raiderboy
Pedofilia [snip] child rape

If you had been following the issue you would not parrot the faggot media's diversionary language.

We are dealing with a filthy, demonic, sodomite cabal. The faggots in the hierarchy and the news media do not want anybody to know that, so they label them "pedophiles" to hide the homosexual nature of the crimes.

Why is that important? Because this behavior is not confined to clergy; it is the modus operandi of the "gay" community at large. Look at the behavior in Hollywood, at public schools, etc. The homos pine for young boys and sexual assault is the gateway to their twisted mindset. Most fags started out with being assaulted by older fags.

That is the truth and hiding this awful truth behind false labels only helps to perpetuate the crimes.

When a man insists on calling typical homosexual behavior "pedophilia", I can only come to one of two conclusions:

1.) That man ignorant of the issue, or
2.) That man is a fag.

28 posted on 08/25/2018 9:36:53 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I -- a smelly sheep -- was told to "Make a mess." Game on.)
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To: chuckles

We cannot stress out about what others do.

When Christ said something that led to many who had been following Him going away, He turned to the twelve and asked if they were going to leave too.

“Lord, to whom shall we go?” they replied “You have the words of eternal life.”

We need to cling to God. We need to be like those that the Lord told Elijah about saying: “Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him.”

There is always a remnant.

Be clingy, rely on His strength and His wisdom, that’s our job.

I’ll also be right up front: I’m the sort that finds himself praying things like Lord, rescue me again ... even yet again. So when I speak of clinging I’m also talking about using His constant help for that too.


29 posted on 08/25/2018 9:37:09 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: dsc

Notice the “and” and that it’s not an “or”?

“cruel and unusual” has entirely different implications that “cruel or unusual” which is essentially how too people seek to apply the standard these days.

A punishment can be very cruel but if it is a not-unusual possible punishment for a given crime it is NOT cruel and unusual. Likewise a punishment can be downright odd for the given crime but if it’s not cruel then that too is okay.


30 posted on 08/25/2018 9:44:19 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne

Interesting argument. Is that the generally accepted position of constitutional scholars?


31 posted on 08/25/2018 10:18:46 AM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: dsc

It is an “and”, the function and meaning of which in the English language, even as used in common law, is not a matter of legal theory unless you want to use legaltheory to nullify the proper use of the language.

Here’s another shocking thought for you, backed by no less than John Marshall: the exercise of the original right to make Law is what sets the meaning of the Law to be what those that Ratified it can be said to have agreed to. The act of Ratification sets that meaning in stone until specific successful Amendment occurs as a further exercise of the original right.

Elections are not exercises of the original right. Nor are statues, executive orders or opinions of the Court. This is because the United States, including all of its departments of government, does not have a Sovereign who can make Law by the ordinary means at his disposal. There is no federal common law. So when the original right is exercised it establishes the meaning.

And despite what you may have heard, it is relatively easy to establish what those that ratified can be said to have agreed to ... for example: when Hamilton wrote of a more general power to spend he only did so AFTER Ratification, and since he expressly contradicted what he and others had said before Ratification how can he latter day writings be considered to have been the agreed to meaning of the language? It cannot be, and Hamilton wasn’t the Sovereign to make Law. The purpose of the justifying clause in A1:S8:C1 misused and abused by the current government in abeyance was not to grant power to spend, but to justify the Power to directly levy taxes rather than beg the State’s for funding as under the AoC. There is no power to spend granted by that clause.

(I could go on, to talk about how the enumeration of both Powers and circumstantial, limited exceptions to that doctrine of enumeration demonstrates that those are the only Powers and the only circumstantial exceptions to be had, or else their enumeration represents what Marshall called a superfluity, or having form without function ... but I’ll cut to the chase)

When the Constitution was ratified the phrase “cruel and unusual” had not yet been laid hold of by those who wanted to delegitimize cruel punishments as if that alone were what mattered for legitimacy.

The death penalty in inherently constitutional for a number of sorts of crimes as it was applied when the Constitution was ratified. Punishments like torture, being unlawful among the several States that Ratified the Constitution, would be “cruel and unusual” for that cause, being actually “and unusual” for the Law in question. By contrast community service, a punishment not really much known among the several States when the Constitution was Ratified, may be in that sense very usual an response for any crime but is hardly cruel, so it is not “cruel and unusual”.

Rather the so called scholars, the poorly named “progressive” ones at least, and at least since the likes of C.C. Langdell took over at Harvard, have actually worked to progressively kick the Constitution to the curb with their misrepresentations about living constitutions and have been doing so since even before FDR slimed his way across the national stage.


32 posted on 08/25/2018 11:01:51 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Excellent post!! I’m with you!!


33 posted on 08/25/2018 12:05:54 PM PDT by raiderboy (Trump promised “shut down the government” in September; if no wall!!)
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To: Albion Wilde
And I agree that the return of Jesus is for rejoicing, but my heart breaks for those that don't know Him, and it REALLY breaks for those that think they know Him but have no clue. I teach Sunday school and have home Bible studies and what I find are a lot of Christians have gone to church for 20 years and they are still on the milk. Many have told me they won't study Revelation because it's too scary. If you think reading it is scary, then wait till it comes. The object of any Christian should be to go in the Rapture. Many if not most think they were saved 20 years ago, but not much has changed in their life. Jesus will come retrieve a Bride, the ones that put Him first, the ones that truly worship Him, the ones that have been in His presence. Would you marry a bride that barely knew you and never wanted to be with you? These people will be left behind to cope with the Beast and God's seals, trumpets, and vials.

For people, especially Christians, to act as if He won't return for awhile concerns me. Just the fact that sodomy is so widely accepted shows it won't be long now. Most Christians don't know anything about the Leviticus 23 Feast Days. They don't understand the "Day no one knows", the thief in the night, birth pangs, First Fruits, Tabernacles, and more. But most of all, they don't understand the difference between being saved and being Raptured. If you have asked Jesus in your heart, you have salvation, but you must live only for Jesus to be Raptured.

All of this information is right there in Scripture, but most think they don't need it and pastors won't teach it.

34 posted on 08/25/2018 5:20:35 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

Just about all the Fox reporters are Catholics. They NEVER take a stance of same-sex “marriage” or abortion. To publicly support the Catholic position is to be fired by the liberal Murdoch sons who own Fox. Brian Baier, who most viewers thinks takes his Catholic faith serious, is a fraud. He does not practice the faith and showed his true colors when he tweeted out congratulations to Fox contributor and sodomite Guy Benson, on Benson’s “marriage” to another man. Let’s not forget about Trump-hating liberal sodomite Sheppie Smith, whose entire show is badmouthing the president. Fox is scared to fire their resident girly-man. Don’t know why he’d fit right in on CNN. He and Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper could have a show together and giiggle and blush talking to each other.


35 posted on 08/25/2018 6:03:23 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness")
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To: chuckles

I agree wholeheartedly about the shocking Biblical ignorance of the majority of pew-sitters, and even many mainstream pastors. The same people who could sing you the lyrics of thousands of pop songs and advertising jingles. It’s tragic, really. When this country was founded, all schoolchildren studied the Bible, and that remained largely true until 1948, when FDR’s SCOTUS suddenly decided it was unconstitutional.


36 posted on 08/26/2018 7:08:25 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Interrupt Obama and reporters are racist; interrupt Trump and they're heroes. --Mark Levin)
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