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Irish PM: Time to Move Catholic Church from Centre of Society
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 8/25/18 | Harriet Sherwood

Posted on 08/26/2018 7:02:21 AM PDT by marshmallow

Leo Varadkar’s speech during papal visit focuses on church’s failings over child sexual abuse

The Irish prime minister has called for a new relationship between church and state in which religion is no longer at the centre of society, as the pope made his first visit to Ireland this weekend.

In a blistering speech focusing on the failings of the church, delivered in the presence of Pope Francis, Leo Varadkar, the taoiseach, said a new covenant for the 21st century was needed that reflected the modern country Ireland had become and learned from “our shared mistakes”.

Pope Francis, who is on a two-day visit to Ireland, repeated earlier acknowledgements of the “grave scandal” of child sexual abuse and the church’s failures to confront it, but he failed to address survivors’ growing demands for action.

Francis said: “I cannot fail to acknowledge the grave scandal caused in Ireland by the abuse of young people by members of the church charged with responsibility for their protection and education.

“The failure of ecclesiastical authorities – bishops, religious superiors, priests and others – adequately to address these repellent crimes has rightly given rise to outrage and remains a source of pain and shame for the Catholic community. I myself share those sentiments.”

On Saturday evening, the pope spent more than an hour meeting privately with eight survivors of abuse committed by clerics or church institutions. In a statement, the survivors said Francis “condemned corruption and cover up within the church as ‘caca’. Literally filth as one sees in a toilet,” his translator clarified.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: fartyshadesofgreen; homosexualagenda; ireland; varadkar

1 posted on 08/26/2018 7:02:21 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

yeah, follow Satan instead!


2 posted on 08/26/2018 7:03:52 AM PDT by NewCenturions
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To: NewCenturions

Phew, this guy is a peach. What were the Irish thinking?


3 posted on 08/26/2018 7:12:02 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: gibsonguy
Prime ministers aren’t directly elected. Whomever the leading party names as their leader becomes the PM (or in Ireland’s case, Taoiseach, roughly pronounced “tea-shock”, from an Old Irish word meaning “chieftain”).

The Irish system is a mess anyhow; anyone becomes a “minister” for certain aspects of society no matter whether they have qualifications or not. Varadkar used to be minister for transportation (which includes tourism and sports for some bizarre reason), minister for “social protection“ (whatever that is) and minister for health during various points of his political career.
4 posted on 08/26/2018 7:31:59 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: marshmallow

Sure, this guy is a progressive jerk, BUT:

The real problem is that the Church has removed itself from the center of society by tolerating a culture of gay, pedophilic priests.

I don’t know how it gets back to its former central position of respect and presumed moral authority going forward.


5 posted on 08/26/2018 7:33:44 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: marshmallow

Aah! The war on Christianity in full bloom.


6 posted on 08/26/2018 8:02:15 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: marshmallow

Varadkar a fine Irish name. Not! Pops was an Indian who lived in Mumbai. This guy is the Nicki Haley of Ireland.


7 posted on 08/26/2018 8:06:58 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Just wait until Sadiq Khan is the British PM. It’s only a matter of time.


8 posted on 08/26/2018 8:08:09 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Would not shock me.


9 posted on 08/26/2018 8:15:39 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

More like suicide - who is going to argue that a gay pedophile church should be at the center of society.


10 posted on 08/26/2018 8:52:26 AM PDT by Wayne07
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To: Wayne07

The only Catholics left in Ireland are the Polish immigrants.


11 posted on 08/26/2018 8:53:33 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Wayne07

You are an idiot. Have you ever been to Ireland? Most people are Catholic and most priests are wonderful people.


12 posted on 08/26/2018 3:56:57 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: gibsonguy
Phew, this guy is a peach. What were the Irish thinking?

What everyone else in Europe is thinking when they go to the polls.

"How can I increase my social benefits?"


13 posted on 08/27/2018 9:16:55 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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