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To: amessenger4god

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There is not one word supporting a pre-trib rapture to be found in the Bible.

But there is Paul’s massive declaration to the Thessalonians that there cannot be any rapture until a list of specific things have come to pass.

None of them have so far happened.


2 posted on 09/10/2018 9:25:34 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Agreed and I can count 50 friends in my past who wasted their lives all waiting for the Trib.
Now they are in their 60’s with nothing to show for it looking square in the face of poverty retirement.


4 posted on 09/10/2018 9:31:02 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: editor-surveyor

When I first became a Christian in 1981 I joined an AG church and was, by default, a Pre-Trib believer. Then I bothered to study it on my own. I became “mid-Trib”, which is more accurately described as “post tribulation, Pre wrath of God”.

But unlike most pre-trib believers I know, I understand that NONE of us really knows for sure. Just as nobody saw Jesus coming the way he did. NOBODY.

We are no different. We are no more “special”, though we are saved. :)

All this apocalyptic stuff is fun to study, but it is there for us to know when it happens, not to “predict the future”.


5 posted on 09/10/2018 9:34:33 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Why would Jesus tell us to be ready; if there were something that had to happen first before He appears to His own in the clouds?

Luke 12:40
Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man comes at an hour when ye think not.

And why would Paul exhort Titus to “look” for the appearing of Christ if His appearance was not an event which could happen at any moment. Paul, the other Apostles, and the early church expected Christ return could happen at any moment — why should we not believe that?

Titus 2:12-13
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;


35 posted on 09/10/2018 11:09:09 AM PDT by evangmlw
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To: editor-surveyor

bttt


50 posted on 09/10/2018 12:29:32 PM PDT by CGVet58 (God has Granted us Liberty, and we owe Him our Courage in return)
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