Speaking of faggots...
At least the Pope wasn't on meth (Not sure about some Bishops though)
Posted on 09/11/2018 1:18:32 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper
The Roman sect is just that. The whole Church is made up of the body of believers that have washed their robes in the Blood of Christ. Some from the Roman sect belong to the Church others do not. And despite what you think you are not sole proprietors of the sacrements. I receive communion on a regular basis well outside of Rome.
But men eventually marry. Clergy don’t. Homosexuals never do. Seems clergy and homosexuals are more aligned within their lifestyles than married men.
Clergy should marry. It was a man-made decision for them not to, and it violates the tenants of the Bible.
“The Devil made us do it.” Pope Francis is so full of s**t that it is coming out his ears. This guy may get to stay in office but I predict in a year or two, the Vatican is going to be so short of funds Francis will have to start selling off treasures from the Vatican Museum.
All I know it that I will continue to attend my traditional Catholic parish and support it with my contributions but I will not give any funds to either the Vatican or my local Bishop who seems to spend the majority of his time in support of illegal immigrants.
In my opinion Christ was not talking about the RCC.
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Well, He was not “NOT talking” about the RCC ... :oD
You mean like, people who actually live there?
I'm sorry, I'm just funnin' with you. Although I never make tyspos i mean tpyosp I mean--- heck, you know what I mean.
In my humble opinion, most people should spend most of their adult lives married. It's always been so, and I think it's for the best. There's just only two ways to live decent, sexually: (1) well-and-truly married or (2) well-and-truly single; and if you're living right you're going to be one or the other, not messing around somewhere in between.
Most men eventually marry, but some don't. The Catholic Church just in the USA has more married clergy (15,000) than we have unmarried priests in religious orders (14,000) --- the former refers to ordained permanent deacons (mostly) and the latter refers to men in orders like Franciscans, Jesuits, Dominicans, Benedictines, Maryknoll Fathers and so forth.
Our secular (diocesan) priests are all unmarried, except for the priests of the Eastern Churches, who are not very numerous in the USA but are more numerous in some other countries. Lebanon, I'm thinking, and the Ukraine.
Anyway, men who want to serve as Catholic clergy have these options, and I'm all for that.
I don't think a man should be pushed either way, if it's not his choice or he is pretty sure he's not called to it as a vocation. That's why I'm glad we have both choices.
So, what's the problem? You wouldn't want a man to be pushed into marrying because it's expected of him, if he actually has a calling to be celibate, would you?
I was just thinking about that. What would you say?
Things are much tougher if you're a same-sex-attracted man, because guys like that find it difficult to relate normally to males OR females.
A guy like that shouldn't be a seminary or a monastery or any other all-male environment, because there are too many temptations; he can't get married to a man; probably too stressful to be married to a woman; if he's a loner, fine, but if he's a person who doesn't do well living alone, it's going to be a tough life.
I've been asked from time to time what I think gay guys should do, but I don't really know what to say about that. Probably need to live single but have a spiritually-supportive group of friends that will help them not die piecemeal of a kind of emotional anemia.
People can live without sex but it's unreasonable, crazy, to think of living without love.
I realize I'm rambling here. It's almost bedtime. Your thoughts?
If a church leader is sinning, they must be rebuked publicly - 1 Tim 5.
The “smoke of Satan” came into the Church a long time agom
Correction: ago.
“The Catholic Church just in the USA has more married clergy “
Great start. Now, simply remove any conditions about marriage. Marriage should be natural and not contrived.
Yes, they should also live in the Bible! :)
And my parents can’t understand why I left the Catholic Church. Sheez.
But it's too late at night to get into ecclesiology here (nearly 10 pm) and besides, ecclesiology is not my forte.
Let me just say the church cata-holos should never have been divided, splintered, split, fictionalize, denominationalized, or torn to pieces, because that is, I think, tearing apart the Body of Christ.
It is not His will, and never has been His will. He did say He wants there to be one flock, one shepherd.
I don't think it's fidelity to leave when things go bizarrely, incomprehensibly wrong, and things were never more bizarrely wrong than when the Apostles were variously hanging themselves, denying Christ to the servant girls, or hiding in the tall grass. If that were the right thing to do, the Church would have died out somewhere between the Cross and Easter.
May get back into this in the morning. I'm getting a beer and a melatonin. G'night, Code Toad.
So, the devil made them do it? Flip Wilson, please pick up the courtesy phone!
“Honestly I don’t know how much more of this I can take.”
This pope is a disaster. What bothers me more is that the same college of cardinals who elected Benedict then turned around and elected this wacko. That was the final nail in the coffin for me. I’m a Presbyterian now and glad to have become one the last few weeks.
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