Posted on 09/11/2018 1:18:32 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper
homo pope
I have so HAD IT with this pope.
“Of course it’s best if a priest is all the he should be, a man full of Justice, Courage and Purity, of Faith, Hope, and Love. But even if he is in a state of mortal sin, it does not affect the “realness” of the sacrament, because, to put it plainly, it is not “his” sacrament. He doesn’t “do” it nor “own” it.”
So why have priests at all if all a priest does is act as a middle man in the sacrament distribution franchise?
You will of course now have to argue that no, a priest is important,which brings you back to the original point.
If it matters not whether a priest is forthright, moral, and a man of good character, then it allows the Church to let homosexuals run wild for decades molesting countless thousands just like church leadership has done.
No, if a Sacrament can be delivered by such men, as you explain, God does not care about the Sacrament, and neither does the Church and therefore it ceases to be a Sacrament in the hands of such evil men and the Church enables them is reduced to farce.
No "protties" I know ever teach there are "Grace loopholes". Nor is there any such doctrine as one "can sin at will with a clear conscience". It's not something found anywhere in Scripture either so whoever told you that was fibbing. What's that thing someone repeats here so often? Oh, yeah, don't tell us what we believe, ask us! Francis is ALL yours!
I see. Well, it’s not good either way
Funny you should say that. There are so many things lining up that sure look like End Times prophecy. After seeing this story and after knowing everything else that is being exposed I reread, Revelation Chapt. 17, Verses 1-15 and I can’t help but think Babylon is Vatican City. The description is too close especially the last sentence...................
“And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”
(I always read the King James version.)
We have a priesthood because it was founded by Christ for our well-being. It is handed on to us the same way the Scriptures were handed on to us, at the same time, and by the same people.
That is enough for me.
" Great start. Now, simply remove any conditions about marriage. Marriage should be natural and not contrived."
Agree 100%. But what "conditions" are you talking about? A marriage is only considered "valid" --- sacramentally speaking --- in the Catholic Church if it is "natural and not contrived."
So, we're there: at least if practice matches theory.
Tagline from my fave Catholic theologian:
“That is enough for me.”
That is the point. If the Church took Christ seriously, offending priests would be immediately removed, because Sacraments are to be respected and handled respectfully by people who do not bring disgrace to themselves and to God.
To NOT remove them is to expose the Holy Sacraments to profanation.
It's wrong on 10,000 levels.
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