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Scapegoating Cardinal Wuerl
Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights ^ | 8/17/18 | Bill Donohue

Posted on 09/13/2018 7:12:03 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara

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To: Salvation
I can’t believe Bill Donohue wrote this.

I can. As an earlier posted pointed out he draws his living from the Church. A very lucrative living. If the plan is to try and spin their way out of this he'll either get on board or walk away from that paycheck.

Five hundred thousand reasons why he'd write this.


61 posted on 09/13/2018 10:35:10 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: NorthMountain

I should add that I actually DID move. I left Seattle (My home for 46 years) and bought and moved to a small farm and 32 acres in Rural KY in late 2011. So yes, I will move, when push comes to shove. Seattle politics sucked, and time has proven it was the right move to make.


62 posted on 09/13/2018 10:36:07 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: ladyjane

I don’t buy the idea that Wuerl did not know about McCarrick.

Anybody who takes over in a high-profile job like that (CEO, President, Head Coach) makes it their business to know EVERYTHING about their predecessor. Even the unsubstantiated and gossipy stuff.

Because it could impact how you do your job.


63 posted on 09/13/2018 10:37:43 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: cuban leaf
The analogy does not work.

The analogy works perfectly. I don't expect you to understand it, though.

64 posted on 09/13/2018 10:54:14 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

Where you live and where you go to church are two different concepts.

And as I pointed out, I’ve actually done exactly the move you talked about when I left Seattle for KY. And if the US gov got bad enough, you bet your sweet bippy I’d expatriate. But grievences are naturally higher to quit your job, sell your house, and move your family to a completely different culture and geographical location than what it takes to change churches.

So I can see where you are going with your analogy, but it is too dissimilar. And, of course, the fact that I’ve actually done what you mentioned in your analogy, shows that at a certain level it does, in fact apply, and yes, I did the move.


65 posted on 09/13/2018 10:59:32 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Mach9; Aunt Polgara; Biggirl

I have a question about this statement: “...Bishop Vigano’s allegation that Wuerl was specifically informed of McCarrick’s behavior on at least two occasions, once by Vigano himself.”

Did Cardinal Wuerl ever have authority over Cardinal McCarrick? From the time line in Mr. Donohoue’s article, it seems to me that Cdl Wuerl was younger and never in the same area to have authority over Cdl McCarrick.


66 posted on 09/13/2018 11:44:37 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: cuban leaf
Moving from Seattle to rural Kentucky does not change your citizenship.

Name one Church that teaches/believes what the Catholic Church teaches/believes.

You can't, because it doesn't exist.

Name one country that's set up equal to America.

You can't, because it doesn't exist.

And that's why, despite Clinton and 0bama and other malefactors in high places, we're still Americans.

Like I said, I don't expect you to get it. I do expect, at least, that you can understand we (Catholics) have a very different perspective on "Church" from you. And you'll probably say "well, you Catholics are wrong". And I'll say "well, you Protestants are wrong". And that leads to the endless idiocy that is the FR Religion Forum.

67 posted on 09/13/2018 12:14:29 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: GOPJ

Perhaps you may want to rephrase your question if you are seeking more specific information. Given the assumption most individuals have a basic working knowledge of the internet the answer to your question is quite obvious


68 posted on 09/13/2018 6:15:14 PM PDT by thesligoduffyflynns (get off my lawn)
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To: GOPJ

Perhaps you may want to rephrase your question if you are seeking more specific information. Given the assumption most individuals have a basic working knowledge of the internet the answer to your question is quite obvious


69 posted on 09/13/2018 6:15:21 PM PDT by thesligoduffyflynns (get off my lawn)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks Mrs. Don-o


70 posted on 09/13/2018 9:29:49 PM PDT by GOPJ (Deep State power peaked during the McCain funeral - it's down from here on out.)
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To: NorthMountain

I get it. You see membership in a church organization as akin to being a citizen of a nation.

In a sense, I do to. But the church organization tie is much easier broken. One can leave a particular church organization without breaking their membership in “the church”, which is the body of believers, regardless of which organization they are a member of - or no member at all.

Thing is, I do get your position. My wife’s family is Catholic and she as catholic until around 30. I understand But I don’t think you understand the position of Christians who are not members of that organization.


71 posted on 09/14/2018 4:40:05 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf
But I don’t think you understand the position of Christians who are not members of that organization.

I understand it. I don't agree with it.

72 posted on 09/14/2018 4:54:42 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

I understand it. I don’t agree with it.


It looks like we’ve come to a meeting of the minds, then. :-)


73 posted on 09/14/2018 5:21:09 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf
"Another church."

Not an option. Despite its problems, the RC church still has the largest deposit of truth of any church extant. I started out in "another church", and after much study and contemplation "became Catholic" in 2006. "This too shall pass"...God has promised it.

74 posted on 09/14/2018 9:37:55 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Well, I simply disagree.

I’m not going to get into my personal story peppered with anecdotal evidence. It would be boring for most. So I’ll just disagree.


75 posted on 09/14/2018 10:01:21 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf
"Well, I simply disagree."

As expected.

76 posted on 09/14/2018 11:01:49 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Aunt Polgara

Donahue is also another one who refuses to blame Bergoglio for anything. Wuerl is his friend but you can bet your bottom dollar he knows Wuerl is homosexual. Donahue does not mind having homosexuals in the priesthood as long as their celibate. In otherwords he goes against the teachings of every pope who ever lived. Homosexuality is not compatible with the priesthood. End of story.


77 posted on 09/14/2018 1:31:57 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness")
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