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Constantinople's Actions Can Result in a Schism in Orthodoxy, Exceeding Great Schism of 1054....
Interfax ^ | 9/13/18

Posted on 09/14/2018 4:46:35 AM PDT by marshmallow

Moscow, September 13, Interfax - The schism in global Orthodoxy caused by non-canonical Ukrainian autocephaly can be compared, and perhaps, even exceeds the Great Schism of 1054 between the Orthodox and the Catholic Orthodox Churches.

"It is necessary to understand that much more people than in XI century will participate in the schism, considering how the population has grown since then. So the scale and drama of this schism will be much sharper," Secretary for Inter-Orthodox Affairs of the Department for External Church Relations Archpriest Igor Yakimchuk told Interfax-Religion.

The history proves that after break up in the eucharistic (prayerful - IF) communication between Churches, this abyss tends to grow, events of both world and domestic history witness to it: the old rite schism of the 17th century "is not healed, and nobody knows how to heal it."

"Such splits easily appear, but it is difficult to overcome them and here we can deal with a deep schism as there are millions believers, thousands churches and parishes in Ukraine," the priest said.

He reminded that in 1054 the existing Christian Church was divided in two. "Something of the same kind can happen today as the Russian Church is not less than a half of all Orthodox Christianity," the interviewee of the agency stressed.

According to him, the Moscow Patriarchate "will spare no effort to protect its parishioner," as "violence and chaos are real."

It was earlier reported that Patriarchate of Constantinople appointed two exarchs in Kiev as part of preparations to grant autocephaly to the Orthodox Church in Ukraine. The Moscow Patriarchate considered this step Constantinople as intruding to its canonical territory.

TOPICS: Current Events; Orthodox Christian
Full headline: Constantinople's actions can result in a schism in Orthodoxy, exceeding the Great Schism of 1054, Russian church official says
1 posted on 09/14/2018 4:46:35 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

This is a great blessing for Christendom all around. God bless Patriarch Bartholomew. God bless Constantinople.

2 posted on 09/14/2018 7:11:11 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: marshmallow

And yet it was the Moscow Patriarch fifty years ago that granted Autocephaly to the American Orthodox church. Seems like the secular world view is trying to control the spiritual world — surprise, surprise.

3 posted on 09/14/2018 7:33:38 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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4 posted on 09/14/2018 7:56:44 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: KC Burke

Ukraine’s Orthodox population is among the most devout in the Orthodox world and there is historical precedent for their request. Not just in 1991 following the fall of the USSR, but going back centuries. Moscow has often undermined Kiev. Politically and spiritually.

This humble, insightful Russian man in St. Petersburg begs to differ with your conclusions. He claims:

“By serving the Kremlin rather than Christ, Moscow Patriarchate now a small national church.”

5 posted on 09/14/2018 7:58:58 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I find the cheering on the part of a handful of Russophobe Catholics for schism within the Orthodox Church to be in poor taste. Your claims regarding this being some kind of response to the various short comings, both real and imaginary, of the Moscow Patriarchate have already been addressed on related threads. But since you keep repeating this tripe, and at the risk of repeating myself, this has nothing to do with Putin and everything to do with the centuries old power struggle between Moscow and the EP. Bart is a liberal ecumenist in the mold of Pope Francis with a long history of waffling on issues like abortion, sodomy and female ordination. He has been repeatedly rebuked by the other local churches for his absurd (some have suggested heretical) claims to universal jurisdiction on behalf of his see. His phony council in Crete has been soundly rejected by the vast majority of the Orthodox world, for which he is still seething and blames Moscow. He has been roasted and openly condemned by the monks of Mt. Athos for his ecumenical affinity for various heretical entities. So I suppose I should not be surprised that he has become a favorite of some Catholics.

For the vast majority of the world’s Orthodox we have no interest in a patriarch with papal pretensions. If we want a liberal ecumenist pope we might just as well swim the Tiber and get the real thing. On which note I think we would be better off if Bart did just that. The sooner he kneels and kisses Francis’ ring the better off the Orthodox world will be.

6 posted on 09/14/2018 9:54:53 AM PDT by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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To: NRx

God will judge the true motives of Patriarch Bartholomew.

The Russian Orthodox Church needs this moment of reckoning. God rebukes the church out of love for His people. For the true believers in the ROC, this move will ultimately prove to be a blessing. The faith needs to be released from the political shackles of a fallen earthly empire once and for all. (Imperial Russia/Soviet Union)

The ROC also needs to be cleansed in its complicitness with the tragic levels of blood shed in the name of said empire, and the continued blood spilled in the current war against Ukraine.

Naysaying abortions and throwing stones at gays and women does not negate the continued evil legacy the ROC leadership perpetuates in its unholy union with the Kremlin. The spread of Soviet values the world over has much to do with the crisis of faith faced by many even in the West today.

Russia was the source and wellspring of some of the most ruthless affronts against the laws of God and nature. The demon spirits from the mass graves and Gulag camps continue to cry out and wreak havoc on the conscience of the nation. The land has yet to be cleansed.

(I am merely echoing the sentiments of modern-day Orthodox voices here.)

True repentance and a season of genuine penance and healing is called for.

The Kremlin-serving antichrists continue to reveal their true colors as the real believers can start to rebuild their faith on the church’s true foundations. On Christ. And HIS kingdom.

The Ukrainian faithful can begin to do this work in peace.

7 posted on 09/14/2018 11:07:12 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Wow. Beyond confirming my suspicions about your Russophobia your comment appears intended to make satire redundant. I am content to let others read it and draw their own conclusions.

8 posted on 09/14/2018 12:11:07 PM PDT by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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To: NRx

You would never say that if you knew my background. And the internet is no place to reveal these things. But instead of going off your flesh, why don’t you ask the Sprit for wisdom?

I am vehemently against the current Russian govt. And so are a growing number of Russians.

9 posted on 09/14/2018 12:15:39 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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