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Churches are not as closed as she makes them out to be. Most will do whatever is necessary to help the girl.


7 posted on 10/09/2018 9:51:59 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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Correct.

If Ally found herself being judged and uncomfortable in church; it was likely due to a great number of her poor choices (sins).

Not just having an abortion.

Its no different than homos who demand to be accepted in churches despite their open and militant lifestyle.


28 posted on 10/09/2018 10:39:49 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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My daughter was raised in church, stayed away from drinking and drugs, was given the talk by her mom and we were strict with her dates. However she ended up pregnant at 17. She began dating a boy who was a year younger than her and we insisted they come to our house, church or out to dinner with us. One day during the long Thanksgiving weekend she asked to go visit his family. The first question we asked all parties who is there? Even talked with his guardians, his grandparents, sure we will be there the whole time.

Well it turns out while she was there the grandfather was at work and the grandmother intentionally left to run errands and nature took it’s course, we accidentally found this out during the babies birth when the grandmother was popping her mouth off in the waiting room to another member of her family. Sadly the baby’s father is a deadbeat and uses the baby for show and tell and then hands him to his grandmother when he see’s the baby. That is an ongoing mess, which I ask for prayers daily.

My daughter was ashamed to tell us and the family but eventually we found out from the boys grandmother. It about killed me, I was ashamed, angry at her, angry because I had failed her I thought. Me and her were always close but I let her know how disappointed I was because of her behavior and it was wrong and now she was about to grow up fast because she was going to be a mom and all that goes with it. When her friends go off to a concert or ballgame, she wasn’t ditching the baby with us, you are about to bear the responsibility of being a parent and I said your childhood just ended with your poor decisions. She was scared and ashamed but I told her me and her Mom would be there to get through this and we loved her but we would not condone her behavior.

Our church slowly found out, there were a few who sat in judgement but mainly kept it too themselves. Most members were like us, not condoning the behavior but wanted to help her and the baby and were supportive. Many gave or bought her items for the baby over the months and now at church many members see her and the baby walk in and they rush to hold the little guy. Our church is not liberal by any means, the pastor and deacons are traditional and conservative and they have also behaved as Christ commanded, loving the sinner and not the sin and showing love to the innocent baby.


40 posted on 10/09/2018 11:11:38 AM PDT by sarge83
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That has been my experience. I attended a church (almost 20 years ago now) with a friend who’s daughter got pregnant while in high school. This church gave her a baby shower, and was there for her if she needed anything financially or otherwise. Mind you, her mom (my friend) went to this church, the pregnant girl never once darkened the doorway of the building, except for the shower. To this day she doesn’t attend church anywhere and cares nothing about God. So I agree with you, not all churches are what she makes them out to be.


42 posted on 10/09/2018 11:19:27 AM PDT by uptowngirl
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Churches are not as closed as she makes them out to be. Most will do whatever is necessary to help the girl.

That is true.

However, she cannot honestly expect the church to say that what she did was OK.

45 posted on 10/09/2018 11:56:30 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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Correct. There are Biblical standards that need to be upheld. It’s fear of public shame for breaking the standard that this author, and probably many other girls and women go thru.
The Church should rightly condemn the sin, and help the girl/women, which MOST churches will do. And then help council the woman and lead her back into the saviors arms.


46 posted on 10/09/2018 11:58:03 AM PDT by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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