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The Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit has all the attributes of personality and is not merely an impersonal force. In John chapters 14, 15, and 16, for example, Jesus spoke of the Holy Spirit as “He”. Jesus also referred to the Holy Spirit as the Comforter or the Counselor (John 14:16 and 15:26). This title conveys the ideas of advising, exhorting, comforting, strengthening, interceding, and encouraging.

In addition, the Bible makes it clear that the Holy Spirit is God Himself. In Acts 5:1-4 a man who lied to the Holy Spirit is said to have lied to God. The Holy Spirit is also described in the Bible as having the characteristics of God and doing God’s work. He convicts people of sin, righteousness, and judgment (John 16:8-11) and gives new life to those who trust in Jesus (John 3:8).

That He is the third Person of the Holy Trinity is made clear by His inclusion with the Father and the Son in such Bible passages as Matthew 28:19. Here the apostles are commanded to baptize those who receive the Gospel “in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”

In the Old Testament, the Holy Spirit came upon people, anointing them for a specific task or purpose (Exodus 31:1-5; Numbers 24:2). In the New Testament, the Holy Spirit dwells within all believers (1 Corinthians 6:19), assures them that they are children of God (Romans 8:16), enables them to live the Christian life (Romans 8:9, 12-15), and gifts them for Christian service (1 Corinthians, chapter 12).


28 posted on 10/23/2018 12:23:34 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

And further more when did anyone ever call an impersonal force like gravity a spirit. You don’t hear about a spirit of gravity. You do year about evil spirits and those are actual thinking beings not just a mindless evil force. To call the Holy Spirit a force is to both deny what the Word says about Him and all use of the word spirit.


35 posted on 10/23/2018 12:44:14 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (If your church believes in evolution it is not a Christian church.)
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To: caww
No where in the Bible does it ever state the Holy Spirit is a person.

We call the “Father, Son, and Holy Ghost” the “Trinity,” but that word is not in the Bible. It definitely does not mean those three are people and not instead different forms of God.

43 posted on 10/23/2018 1:03:13 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: caww

How can you not see that every example you gave of the Holy Spirit is of a spirit form and not a person?


45 posted on 10/23/2018 1:08:32 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: caww

“...has all the attributes of personality and is not merely an impersonal force.”

I like that - He has personality. Not sure that makes Him a “person”. We also refer to God as He, Father, etc. and He is not a person.

To me, a person is someone with a physical body. Jesus was a person. (Hmm - seeing as he did not die and had a body when He ascended into Heaven - is He still a person? I would guess so. Of course He is still more than just a “person” - He IS God.)

I think we can get a bit lost in trying to completely understand the Trinity. We CAN learn a lot about it - but I imagine at a certain point it ends up a “mystery” for our feeble minds and spirit.

But as one of my pastor’s says “It’s a mystery - but I’m okay with that. It’s not a mystery to God.”


54 posted on 10/23/2018 1:35:00 PM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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