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1 posted on 11/14/2018 9:31:30 AM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 11/14/2018 9:33:14 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

I saw some clips of this discussion. Granted, they were only clips and not representative of everything going on there.

But what I saw, in sum, was a lot of bureaucrats, speaking the bureaucrat-institutional-speak, slogans and cliches common in their organization. Lots of talk about “understanding.”


3 posted on 11/14/2018 9:45:32 AM PST by PGR88
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Motivation Remains Unclear for Vatican Request that US Bishops Delay Action

Register senior editor Matthew Bunson, who is attending this week’s meeting, said in his report on the first day’s proceedings that the Vatican directive Monday came as a “complete surprise to virtually all of the bishops” and that he saw it as a “deliberate act of humiliation” of the U.S. episcopate “at a time when they are trying in good faith to grapple with the greatest crisis in the history of American Catholicism.”

4 posted on 11/14/2018 10:01:33 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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USCCB: A Chess Match
6 posted on 11/14/2018 10:28:45 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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As the collection plate dries up, it will be instructive to watch how each Parish and Diocese prioritize their budgets.

It may help to do as parishioners in Buffalo, NY have done, and start dropping notes in the collection plate, to the effect,

"Contributions will resume when Rome has cleaned up its mess."

Imagine if every parish received only a half-dozen of these notes every Sunday?!?!?

7 posted on 11/14/2018 10:58:43 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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Pope: Gossip kills and those who gossip are terrorists

Or: 'I only told the truth!'. Maybe, but you've revealed some personal or confidential facts. How much gossip destroys communion because of inappropriateness or lack of delicacy! Moreover: gossip kills and this was said by the apostle James in his Letter. The gossiper, the gossipers are people who kill: kill others, because the tongue kills like a knife. Be careful. A gossiper is a terrorist, because with his tongue he throws the bomb and leaves, and this thing that he says, that bomb that destroys other peoples’ reputation, and he goes away quietly. Do not forget: to gossip is to kill ".11/14/18

19 posted on 11/14/2018 2:45:34 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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The USCCB is an evil construct of the Second Vatican Council. It is likely the singular heresy of Vatican II that did ass much to diminish the authority of the Church than any other error of that time.

Collegialism, as it is called, created the operational authority for the creation of the episcopal conferences. Almost every country or group of small nations have one. Here in the United States it is called the USCCB. It does many things, but the most destructive role they play is to diminish the authority of the bishops. Prior to Vatican II, each bishops was essentially “pope” in his own diocese. Today the decisions are made by the “faceless” USCCB.

We are told that God draws straight with crooked lines. If there is any good that can be said about the clerical sexual abuse of young boys, is that the curtain that has hidden the existence of the USCCB has been thrown open, and the faithful can see how evil this “committee of men” actually are.

There is only one answer to this problem and that is to completely abandon the USCCB (and all other episcopal conferences) and allow the bishops to answer to God alone as they did before Vatican II.


20 posted on 11/14/2018 4:19:03 PM PST by tomsbartoo (St Pius X watch over us)
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