Well, even so, it *could* be worse...the below is a professor at Liberty University. And that's all I'm going to say about that.
Posted on 11/18/2018 4:49:56 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
But, many women are called to other ministries. In my case, I've been called, along with my husband, as a teacher, and now a web designer, as part of the Bible translation team in a far away country. I have counseled, I share Christ with my students, I disciple women and children as part of that ministry. I have endure hardship including having a gunman accost me, and my family but especially me, malaria, sacrificing time with family left in America, and dengue fever. Show me from Scripture where I have not acted Biblically and then I will consider whether women are not called to ministries other than preaching.
Women are not to speak in church. I do not see, Scripturally, that other modes of ministry are forbidden.
Many women in ministry tend to be quite liberal and a little off.
Well, even so, it *could* be worse...the below is a professor at Liberty University. And that's all I'm going to say about that.
Excellent response! It is just so unnecessary for Christian men to have a knee-jerk reaction to the idea of women being involved in ministry. They take a few verses of Scripture out of their context of both audience and societal norms of the time and then presume they exclude women from having ANY role in the life of the church - ever. Women are not to usurp authority over a man. I don't think this precludes her from EVER speaking in church. Usurpation is: taking (a position of power or importance) illegally or by force, take the place of (someone in a position of power) illegally; supplant, oust, overthrow, remove, topple, unseat, depose, dethrone, encroach or infringe upon (someone's rights). If a woman is invited and asked to speak in a church, I don't see how that qualifies as usurping.
But, like you said, there are many different ways women can serve the Lord and it is up to Him to direct our ways as long as we are surrendered to His leading. Having a theological, Biblical education equips us to do this whether in missionary work, Christian education, Bible studies and/or raising up children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.
God bless you for your willingness and faithfulness to hear His call and go where He wants you to be. You will reach people for the gospel's sake that perhaps no man might ever have.
I am unable to name a single denomination that has adopted the heresy of female ordination and not gone completely off the rails afterwards. Female ordination appears to be one of the most common and significant steps on the road to apostasy.
I agree with you but I think the word “called” is problematic. A calling usually means a unique call to ordained church office, not equipping or interest in say teaching Sunday school or running women’s bible study.
A bit of a push with the words there imo.
“Greet Prisca and Aquila, my fellow workers in Christ Jesus, who have risked their lives for me. Not only I but all the churches of the Gentiles are grateful to them. Greet also the church that meets at their house.”—Romans 16:3-5
Your post made me think of the above couple. I scanned Ellicott’s Commentary for English Readers on this verse and found it interesting:
“(3) Priscilla.—The correct reading here is Prisca, of which form Priscilla is the diminutive. It is rather remarkable that the wife should be mentioned first. Perhaps it may be inferred that she was the more active and conspicuous of the two.”
Acts 18:2
And found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, lately come from Italy, with his wife Priscilla; (because that Claudius had commanded all Jews to depart from Rome:) and came unto them.
Acts 18:26
And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.
I’ve had a few Freeper men throw the passage of Scripture WRT women teaching men in my face on Religion Forum threads where I have expressed disagreement with them on doctrinal issues. I have a college degree in Biblical Education/Theology so I am able to back up my views. I think if they did not know that I was a woman, they most likely would have at least respected and engaged in discussion. Instead, they hide behind “thou shalt not suffer a woman to teach”. Curious about what y’all think about this kind of response?
I do not see that Free Republic is a pulpit. This is not a church! So there is no reason to be quiet. Secondly, in a forum where we can share views, ideas, and insights, that is not teaching and definitely not exercising any authority. Thirdly, the only man we are to submit to is our husbands.
So, CLEAN THEIR CLOCKS! But, in a godly way.
The passage of Scripture I think being referred to by boatbums is I Timothy 2:12.
Sis, do you even veil?
I do not suffer a woman to teach or assume authority over men .NE. submit to all men qua men. OTOH I have yet to see a female teacher ever urging women to demonstrate humility by washibg men’s feet: there is definitely a one-way mirror thingies in many circles on the application of *that* verse.
I believe it is “ thou shalt not suffer to PREACH.” With your education I’d think you’d know that? Or tell me if I am in error.
Ordained office and church authority are not for women. Scripture is clear. But we can teach other women and children and also, in a non authoritative way, men.
I can tell a man the best flour to use. I can teach him to read. I might even explain the doctrine of election to him, certainly share the gospel. But not in a bossy way.
I have never felt called to be a pastor nor would I join a church where a woman is the pastor. It is a position of authority. There are many, many opportunities for us to serve the Lord and all God asks of us is faithfulness to Him.
Tell me, GW, did you ever have women teachers in grade school, high school, college? Did your Mom ever teach you anything? Were you okay with THAT kind of teaching? I think it is obvious what Paul is teaching here. He is talking about church government as well as the hierarchical structure of the family. The man is supposed to be the head of the home, the protector, the provider, the guardian, the teacher, the leader. What happens to a family when men shirk that responsibility as so often happens in our day. Can women take up that job and ensure children are STILL taught? Your selective "discrimination" is not missed.
Women have every right to be heard, to have opinions, to communicate their views, to defend their beliefs, to VOTE. I think you probably would have no problem with women's thoughts on internet forums as long as they agree with you, right? When they don't, is that when you stand behind St. Paul's robes??? ***Newsflash***...you aren't my husband, you aren't my pastor, this isn't church.
Sis, do you even veil?
No, bro, I don't "veil".
And he (Apollos) began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him to them, and expounded to him the way of God more perfectly. (Acts 18:26)
Paul did not seem to have a problem with Priscilla and her husband when THEY took Apollos - whom he called a fellow worker/servant of God - to their home and helped him understand God's Way even better. Was she usurping her husband or obeying the Lord and used for the edification of the church?
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