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1 posted on 12/02/2018 6:55:57 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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Seems a bit of a stretch to me. If, at some time in the misty future, someone finds my car with a Trump sticker on it, will it be assumed that the car must have belonged to Trump?


2 posted on 12/02/2018 7:04:37 PM PST by ArtDodger
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VERY interesting! Thank you! :)


3 posted on 12/02/2018 7:13:11 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin ( "Why can't you be more like Lloyd Braun?")
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Rod Stieger did a good job as him.


4 posted on 12/02/2018 7:14:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Wow. That’s incredible.


9 posted on 12/02/2018 7:20:58 PM PST by moovova
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Seems like to me a rich guy like Pilate could have afforded a gold ring, or at least silver. Now, a slave, or a minor functionary working for Pilate might be given a bronze ring with his name on it as a token of esteem, or means of identification.


10 posted on 12/02/2018 7:21:21 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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Saw something on the tube about a popular archeologist speculating that Pilate was a creature of Sejanus. He made a case for some of his reasoning and I found it interesting.

The difference between Augustus and Tiberius was immense.


13 posted on 12/02/2018 7:28:24 PM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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Saw something on the tube about a popular archeologist speculating that Pilate was a creature of Sejanus. He made a case for some of his reasoning and I found it interesting.

The difference between Augustus and Tiberius was immense.


14 posted on 12/02/2018 7:28:31 PM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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This is very possibly his ring/seal. But it could be an extra copy used by an administrative assistant on his behalf. I speculate this because Pilate was hauled back to time for being too cruel even by the Empire’s “standards.” Found guilty of oppression and executing people without trial, Pilate reportedly committed suicide in Rome under orders of Emperor Caligula ( himself about as far from a compassionate soul as possible to imagine, ha!). This according to the major church historian Eusebius. So, my guess is Pilate’s ring/ seal is buried somewhere in Rome — but this one in Israel COULD be the one he personally used (and if not, then yes it is almost certainly one he authorized an aide to use on his behalf). Either way, a fascinating find by the Israelis


16 posted on 12/02/2018 7:44:16 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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Crucifixion was a horrible way to die. It was so bad that no Roman citizen could be crucified. It was an execution reserved for slaves and bandits...

Umm... And since it's Hanukkah... about 500 Jewish defenders of Jerusalem, daily, during the siege of 70, and many before, and many scores more in the years after...
21 posted on 12/02/2018 8:03:02 PM PST by golux
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Provenance? Without that it’s just an old piece of metal.


24 posted on 12/02/2018 8:39:11 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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Why would a Roman emperor have a ring inscribed in Greek?


28 posted on 12/02/2018 10:46:30 PM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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Pontius Pilate, who ordered Jesus Christ's crucifixion

In the New Testament of the Bible, a reluctant Pilate is pressured by the demands of the Jewish crowd to order Jesus’ crucifixion.

Thank you for the clarification.

32 posted on 12/03/2018 5:29:19 AM PST by MosesKnows
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The ring was apparently used as a stamping ring in day to day work, with the governor or one of his officials using it to sign his name.

Pilate's assistant was named Radarus


33 posted on 12/03/2018 5:40:56 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Marxism: Trendy theory, wrong species)
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12/2/2018 was the 24th day of the 9th month, in the second year of Trump’s presidency, as the Father tells time.

Haggai 2:10
10 On the twenty-fourth day of the ninth month, in the second year of Darius, the word of the Lord came to the prophet Haggai..

Yesterday, 12/2/2018 to the world,was an anniversary of that day Haggai received Word..

He goes on further.. and this is what is interesting!

Haggai 2:20
The word of the Lord came to Haggai a second time on the twenty-fourth day of the month: 21 “Tell Zerubbabel governor of Judah that I am going to shake the heavens and the earth. 22 I will overturn royal thrones and shatter the power of the foreign kingdoms. I will overthrow chariots and their drivers; horses and their riders will fall, each by the sword of his brother.

23 “‘On that day,’ declares the Lord Almighty, ‘I will take you, my servant Zerubbabel son of Shealtiel,’ declares the Lord, ‘and I will make you like my signet ring, for I have chosen you,’ declares the Lord Almighty.”

So,on the 24th day of the 9th month, in the 2nd year of Trump (12/2/2018 to the world) , the world gets news of a signet ring affiliated with Pontius Pilate, a former governor of Judah.

The anniversary of Haggai receiving Word probably isn’t a date people circle on the calendar, but our Sovereign gave meaning to that date and meaning to Trump’s 2nd year- even if the world can’t fully see it.

For His Glory!


35 posted on 12/03/2018 7:00:14 AM PST by delchiante
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