Posted on 12/03/2018 7:00:45 PM PST by ebb tide
Dozens of Irish doctors walked out of an emergency meeting about abortion Sunday after they said their concerns about conscience protections are being ignored.
About 300 doctors attended the meeting by the Irish College of General Practitioners EGM in Dublin to discuss the governments plans to legalize abortions starting Jan. 1, 2019, NewsTalk reports.
Dozens walked out after complaining that leaders have been ramming through the pro-abortion legislation without consulting the medical community or giving it ample time to prepare. Many doctors also fear being forced to help abort unborn babies against their consciences.
Dr. Andrew ORegan, speaking for the GPs who walked out, said the meeting Sunday did nothing to address their concerns, the Irish Independent reports.
The very false impression has been created [by] the Minister for Health that general practice is a suitable setting for abortion provision, ORegan said. There are a whole spectrum of opinions within our grouping that left this meeting. People who felt differently about the abortion referendum but people that are united in that we have not been listened to and that we have not been genuinely engaged with in a respectful, democratic way.
Dr. Illona Duffy, an OB-GYN, said the Irish health system is not ready to begin providing abortions on Jan. 1, the date when the government wants every maternity hospital to start aborting unborn babies.
Duffy told Breaking News Ireland that government leaders have not given them many details or involved them in plans to legalize abortion.
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Heres more from the report:
Dr Duffy said: Ireland is one of the only countries where abortion services will be through GPs, it is usually through clinics. In most countries patients self-refer to clinics.
There is a concern that GPs are already under pressure and this is an attempt to provide the service on the cheap.
She said: GPs will be left dealing with this complicated process. This is being done without consultation and without taking our concerns into consideration.
More than 640 general practitioners also signed a petition calling the pro-abortion legislation a serious crisis, according to the Connacht Tribune.
Fiona McHugh of Nurses and Midwives 4 Life told reporters that her group, which represents hundreds of medical workers, also has major concerns about the legislation. She said pro-abortion Health Minister Simon Harris has kept them utterly in the dark, though they repeatedly have asked to meet with him.
Weve had no meetings with Minister Harris at all McHugh said. This service is to be rolled out in January and any service that is new to healthcare, there would be talk about how this is going to happen, youd have to work through a process.
None of this has happened, were completely and utterly in the dark, she said.
Last week, the Dáil debated the pro-abortion bill, which would legalize abortion for any reason up to 12 weeks of pregnancy and up to six months in a wide variety of circumstances. It would force taxpayers to pay for abortions and force Catholic hospitals to provide them. The bill also strictly limits conscience protections for medical professionals. TDs rejected a series of amendments that would have provided at least some protections for unborn babies and taxpayers.
Hundreds of Irish doctors, nurses and midwives have been urging the health minister to meet with them to address a severe lack of conscience protections in the law. Without added protections, medical workers could be forced to help abort unborn babies or lose their jobs.
The bill would force Catholic hospitals and pregnancy centers to promote or provide abortions against their consciences as well. In September, Harris confirmed that Catholic hospitals will be forced to abort unborn babies, saying, conscientious objection is for individuals, not institutions.
An October poll by Amárach found that 60 percent of Irish residents oppose taxpayer-funded abortions. In addition, a full 80 percent say health care workers should not be forced to carry out abortions against their conscience.
Widget Jr wrote:
...while the people needed to carry it out dont have a right to refuse.
I was being sarcastic. I tend to have a really dry sense of humor.
I admit that I thought the word ‘right’ used with the word ‘choice’ irritated me, it was like Demz Speak.
Apologies...
The Emerald Isle will be Islamic green in a very short time.
We ought to obey God rather than men. God will bless these doctors for refusing to kill Gods babies. He will not let murderers into Heaven. Jesus says, You know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
elcid1970 wrote:
The Emerald Isle will be Islamic green in a very short time.
Spoken in the great tradition of Irish poets!
Well we can use some good european doctors with a moral conscience over here.
Yeah where are they screaming abput the rights of the minority?
Oh yeah when they are in power the minority is silenced and jailed, amd in somemplaced tried and executed.
Godam socialist totalitarian elitists.
Sure and I wish it wasn’t coming true to being so!
Ireland fought the English to a standstill for centuries but with their rejecting of the spirit of God and His healing grace their fate is now crashing down around them with not even the keening of the banshees to warn them it’s happening.
Erin, we hardly knew ye.
Ireland is now a pagan country. Mass attendance, even among seniors, is abysmal. A lot of this is the result of the terrible things done by nuns and brothers to vhildren in their care. But there is nothing to replace the Church. When Catholics leave, whether in Ireland or antwhere really, it in s rarely for a new faith. Some may call Ireland secular today, but it is really pagan.
Sounds like they should all hope a flight to the US and claim legit asylum.
Doctors and fetuses have zero rights. Just pregnant women.
“...why not clitoridectomies too?”
That’s next.
“It’s good to see some Irish M.D.’s that are more Catholic than the pope.”
A bear in the woods is more consistently Catholic than this pope, from actions thus far.
Those are immigrants that would be welcome in the U.S.!!!
I think it's safe to say that none of those nuns and brothers ever shredded a living child to death with a suction cannula, or killed a child by ripping her arms and legs off without anesthesia, etc. It's sad and ironic that the reaction to child abuse will now consist of legitimizing and even compelling much more serious, gruesome, and deadly child abuse.
Not Catholic, but it appears from afar that the rhetorical question Is the pope Catholic? is no longer rhetorical, but something that can and should be debated.
There are more than just some Roman. Catholics that are prolife.
There are plenty of us here that have a moral conscience. Unfortunately there are those that do not that are happy to take money for destroying innocent life
Not everyone that flees the Roman sect is Pagan. Some are actually Christian.
A fascist government forcing people to choose between their principles or their job.
Same thing happening here.
Socialism is a concept of elective Communism government. The EU countries renounced their faith in God after WWI and WWII and choose Socialist leaders. Eighty years into socialism and individualism and consvience to stand against the State is too late. They wanted cradle to the grave government planning and control. Those doctors are trained by the State to serve society. They are wholly owned by the government and will perform as the government dictates.
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