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A Shocking Loss of Faith: Reflecting on the Closing of So Many Churches
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 12-06-18 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 12/07/2018 8:54:49 AM PST by Salvation

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To: MrEdd
Loss of faith in God, or abandonment of a corrupt ecclesiastical hierarchy? The two are not the same Msgr Pope.

Some think it is.

I'm with you. Closing big mainline churches that have abandoned the veracity of Scripture is no loss.

They should have closed a long time ago if they decided that Scripture could not be trusted or believed.

61 posted on 12/08/2018 5:18:48 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: dsc
The problem is not pedophiles. The problem is ordinary, garden-variety homosexuals.

Not so because if they had kept to being normal garden variety homosexuals and not gone after minors, nothing would have changed and nobody would know.

They're going after minors., they are pedophiles, like it or not, and your church is rife with them and refusing to address the issue.

62 posted on 12/08/2018 5:22:24 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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63 posted on 12/08/2018 7:16:40 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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To: metmom

To quote a certain ex-Pope, “Smaller, poorer, holier.”

I wish.


64 posted on 12/08/2018 7:41:16 PM PST by Luircin
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To: metmom

“Not so because if they had kept to being normal garden variety homosexuals and not gone after minors, nothing would have changed and nobody would know.”

1. Minor? The age of consent is a legal concept. Puberty is a biological fact. We could lower the age of majority to three, and it would have no effect on the definition of pedophilia.

2. Ordinary, garden-variety homosexuals are almost universally attracted to boys we define as “minors.” Ask a homo if he wants to bugger a fifteen-year-old. The answer will be “yes.” That’s not pedophilia. It’s just the way homos are.


65 posted on 12/08/2018 10:04:48 PM PST by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: Salvation; daniel1212
From the Westminster Confession of Faith

Please note #4

Chapter XXV Of the Church

I. The catholic or universal Church, which is invisible, consists of the whole number of the elect, that have been, are, or shall be gathered into one, under Christ the Head thereof; and is the spouse, the body, the fulness of Him that fills all in all.

II. The visible Church, which is also catholic or universal under the Gospel (not confined to one nation, as before under the law), consists of all those throughout the world that profess the true religion; and of their children: and is the kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ, the house and family of God, out of which there is no ordinary possibility of salvation.

III. Unto this catholic visible Church Christ has given the ministry, oracles, and ordinances of God, for the gathering and perfecting of the saints, in this life, to the end of the world: and does, by his own presence and Spirit, according to his promise, make them effectual thereunto.

IV. This catholic Church has been sometimes more, sometimes less visible. And particular Churches, which are members thereof, are more or less pure, according as the doctrine of the Gospel is taught and embraced, ordinances administered, and public worship performed more or less purely in them.

V. The purest Churches under heaven are subject both to mixture and error; and some have so degenerated, as to become no Churches of Christ, but synagogues of Satan. Nevertheless, there shall be always a Church on earth to worship God according to his will.

VI. There is no other head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ. Nor can the Pope of Rome, in any sense, be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin, and son of perdition, that exalts himself, in the Church, against Christ and all that is called God.

Scriptures at references.

66 posted on 12/09/2018 4:48:36 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: dsc

Go ahead.

Defend it again.

Par for the course.


67 posted on 12/09/2018 4:56:44 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: metmom

“Defend it again.”

Defend the truth against your dimwitted nonsense again? Okay.


68 posted on 12/09/2018 9:07:35 AM PST by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Luke 18:8 KJV

I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?


69 posted on 12/09/2018 11:44:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mosesdapoet

Holy Days of Obligation.

HMMMmmm...


70 posted on 12/09/2018 11:52:33 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
Oh please....the "Fred Smith" decides to start a church movement is weird at best....we have several in our town and they are ALL strange at best...get back to the Catholic church ASAP

Mmmm… OK...


 

 




The 15 promises

(Given to St. Dominic and Blessed Alan de la Roche)

1 Whoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall receive powerful graces.
2. I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary.
3. The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies
4. It will cause virtue and good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of people from the love of the world and its vanities, and will lift them to the desire of eternal things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means.
5. The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish.
6. Whoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying Himself to the consideration of its Sacred Mysteries shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise Him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just, he shall remain in the grace of God, and become worthy of eternal life.
7. Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church.
8. Those who are faithful to recite the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the light of God and the plentitude of His graces; at the moment of death they shall participate in the merits of the Saints in Paradise.
9. I  shall deliver from purgatory those who have been devoted to the Rosary.
10. The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of glory in Heaven.
11. You shall obtain all you ask of me by the recitation of the Rosary.
12. All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities.
13. I  have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire celestial court during their life and at the hour of death
14. All who recite the Rosary are my children, and brothers and sisters of my only Son, Jesus Christ.
15. Devotion of my Rosary is a great sign of predestination.

 

"The Most Holy Virgin in these last times in which we live has given a new efficacy to the recitation of the Rosary to such an extent that there is no problem,

no matter how difficult it is, wheter temporal or above all spiritual, in the personal life of each one of us, of our families...that cannot be solved by the Rosary.

There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we cannot resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary."

Sister Lucia dos Santos

71 posted on 12/09/2018 11:55:38 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
...get back to the Catholic church ASAP

I'd be afraid NOT to!!


"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours."

--Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)


72 posted on 12/09/2018 11:56:51 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone

Sand?


73 posted on 12/09/2018 11:57:28 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Sand?

It's a family show!

74 posted on 12/09/2018 2:12:37 PM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: Salvation; Elsie; All

I was working on this reply on this topic when I was distracted but this is what Catholics are dealing with in my later on the observance of Immaculate Conception in post 38 in http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3711435/posts. While I don’t identify the closed churches and schools in that piece excepting the one I attended about half of them in the Chicago Archdiocese are gone


75 posted on 12/10/2018 8:32:27 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin another gem posted in the wilderness)
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To: Salvation
The further a church (Protestant or Catholic) gets away from Jesus Christ, the faster that church dies.

I'd like to see a study of more traditional Catholic churches vs liberal catholic churches. I'd bet the more traditional churches are stronger.

76 posted on 12/14/2018 9:54:44 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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