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Science Confirms: Angels Took the House of Our Lady of Nazareth to Loreto
tfp ^ | August 7, 2016 | Luis Dufaur

Posted on 12/08/2018 7:17:28 AM PST by NYer

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

It’s far more than whether it’s a crime or not. As clergy, who ought to have SOME familiarity with Scripture, there’s the issue of morality.

Abortion is not a crime, but it’s far from morally right. Same with homosexual marriage.

And the appeal of *I didn’t know it was a crime* does NOT excuse him at all in the least of not knowing that it was MORALLY wrong and a sin.

God isn’t going to want to be hearing excuses when His moral law is pretty clear on the issues of sexual morality and harming children.

The guy is getting a double whammy on Judgment Day.


1,161 posted on 12/19/2018 12:42:24 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: GBA
“You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.”
--Obi-Wan Kenobi
 
From Wikipedia:
“Confirmation bias, also called confirmatory bias or myside bias, is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor,
and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses.
It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning.
People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way.
The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs.”

1,162 posted on 12/20/2018 5:33:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Confirmation bias works both sides of the aisle.
1,163 posted on 12/20/2018 5:35:01 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
How did the Holy House take off from its foundations and reappear intact about 2,000 miles away, where it remains to this day?

No; it is STILL: WHY?

WHY did the angel(s) block the road with it?

1,164 posted on 12/20/2018 5:36:39 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

And once again, the Catholics leave and we are left to write limericks.

This speaks either to our stubbornness, our passion, or the fact that we just really love talking Scripture.


1,165 posted on 12/20/2018 8:39:30 AM PST by Luircin
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To: GBA
1) Mother Mary is the Spouse of the Holy Spirit, Who is God, and
2) Mother Mary is the Mother of the Son, Who is also God.

Mormons believe that God The Father has a wife, a goddess wife in heaven that is. Why? Because it just makes sense.

1,166 posted on 12/20/2018 8:46:51 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Vote your bible.)
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To: DungeonMaster; GBA

Mormons believe “Heavenly Father” is married to “Heavenly Mother”

Some Roman Catholics believe Mary is the Spouse of God

Both false.


1,167 posted on 12/20/2018 4:15:05 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Luircin

That our limericks cause Catholics to leave;
‘Tis a reason to cry, sob and grieve.
But is it our passion?
or merely a fashion?
No matter; to my Bible I’ll cleave.


1,168 posted on 12/20/2018 6:04:38 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; teppe; Normandy

Straight from the horses mouth:
https://www.lds.org/topics/mother-in-heaven?lang=eng


1,169 posted on 12/20/2018 6:08:22 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: GBA
I concede that I haven’t provided chaperter and verse to answer the questions I asked you.

    The scriptural proof that Mary (Miriam) is the mother of God is as follows:

  1. The Virgin would be the mother of Immanuel.
  2. The scriptures testify Mary is the mother of Jesus.
  3. The scriptures testify Mary is the mother of Immanuel (Emmanuel).
  4. The scriptures testify Jesus is Immanuel.
  5. The Holy Spirit interprets the Hebrew word "Immanuel" literally, "God with us."
  6. Mary is the mother of "God with us".
  7. Thus, Mary is the mother of God with us.


Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

...

Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Isaiah, Catholic chapter seven, Protestant verse fourteen,
Matthew, Catholic chapter one, Protestant verses eighteen to twenty three,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

1,170 posted on 12/20/2018 8:49:07 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981; aMorePerfectUnion; ealgeone; metmom; Elsie; boatbums
Mary was the mother of Jesus. She was also the mother of at least 6 other children, because they did the evil deed (sex) 👍 Her son James, the half brother of Jesus, was the head of the Jerusalem church. Peter was NOT. He wrote the book of James. Another half brother of Jesus, Jude, wrote the book of Jude.
Elsie told me about 4 billion times, not to exaggerate, but hasn’t this been explained to you about 47 trillion times? My opinion is, your handling of scripture, is less than satisfactory. 👎
Using your logic, since the sun rises, after the rooster crows, ergo, the rooster causes the sun to rise. Obviously, I totally disagree with your interpretation of scripture, even though I thought you needed a priest to interpret scripture for you. That’s what I was told, when I was a catholic, many decades ago. 😇

AF_vet_1967-1987

1,171 posted on 12/20/2018 9:39:02 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17
I find it strange when a modern faith community claims to be Bible based and ignores the scriptures for its own cultural traditions. As much as the Samaritans claimed to be genuine and follow the scriptures, they were not. Salvation is of the Jews, not the Samaritans. The Samaritans came later, after the rebellion of the Northern Kingdom against Judah, and after their lineage was mixed with the Gentiles resettled in the land by the Assyrians.
1,172 posted on 12/20/2018 9:48:46 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981; aMorePerfectUnion; ealgeone; boatbums; metmom; Elsie; Luircin
No one is ignoring the scriptures, bro. I just disagree with 90% of your interpretations of scripture, that’s all. Besides that, when I was a catholic, many decades ago, I was always told, that if I was going to read the Bible, I needed a priest to interpret scripture for me. Did you do that, or are you relying on your own personal interpretation of scripture?
And another thing, would I be correct in assuming you have no assurance of salvation? If you don’t, then I feel sorry for you. Assurance of salvation, is a beautiful thing. I know, since I have it.
Now, I think I will go read the Book of James, and the book of Jude. You know, the half brothers of Jesus, the natural sons of Mary and Joseph. I am sure it doesn’t take a brain surgeon, to figure out how all those other children of Mary and Joseph came along. Hint: it wasn’t the stork that brought them. 😁 Now, go and rightly divide the Word of Truth. 👍 Then maybe you can get assurance of salvation, though I cannot figure out why you don’t want it. 🤔🤗🙄
I know I have said it before, I will say it again. There really isn’t any intelligent reason, to discuss this with you any further. I hope you make it to Heaven. I am not relying on hope. I am relying on SETTLED assurance. 👍
1,173 posted on 12/21/2018 2:25:08 AM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: af_vet_1981
The scriptures testify...
 
In the beginning was the Word...   John 1:1
 
Let US create man in OUR image...  Genesis 1:26
 
All things were made by him...  John 1:3
 
For by him were all things created... Colossians 1:16
 
...yes they do!!

That Jesus has ALWAYS been.
That Mary was to be the human that supplied His fleshly body.
That the phrase "mother of GOD" is NOT found in it's pages.
That Rome has invented a multitude of fawning descriptors of 'Mary', for NONE are found amoungst it's pages.

1,174 posted on 12/21/2018 3:23:05 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
 
That Mary was to be the human that supplied His fleshly body.
 
 
 

What is the meaning of the Incarnation of Christ? - Got Questions?


https://www.gotquestions.org/incarnation-of-Christ.html
 
 
The word incarnation means “the act of being made flesh.” It comes from the Latin version of John 1:14, which in English reads, “The Word became flesh ...

1,175 posted on 12/21/2018 3:26:43 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
I find it strange when a modern faith community claims to be Bible based and ignores the scriptures for its own cultural traditions.

Folks; you just CANNOT make this stuff up!!

Call no man father...


1,176 posted on 12/21/2018 3:29:14 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981

I find it hypocritical when an ancient faith community claims that its own cultural traditions and ‘explanations’ trump the scriptures.


1,177 posted on 12/21/2018 3:31:22 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

That Rome has invented a multitude of fawning descriptors of 'Mary', for NONE are found amoungst it's pages.
 




 

The way it's written:

 
Galatians 4:4-5
But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those under the law, that we might receive adoption to sonship.
 
 
 
The way Rome teaches it:
 
Galatians 4:4-5
But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a....
 
Co-Redemptrix, 
Ark of the Covenant,
Beloved daughter of the Father,
Favoured Daughter of the Father,
Cause of Our Joy,
Cause of our Salvation ,
Comfort of the Afflicted,
Destroyer of Heresy,
Ever-virgin ,
Gate of Heaven,
God-bearer,
Great Mother,
Health of the Sick,
Heavenly Chariot,
Help of Christians,
Holy Mary,
Holy Mother of God,
Holy Virgin of Virgins,
House of Gold,
Joy of the Just,
Majesty,
Mirror of Justice,
Morning Star,
Most Holy,
Mother Admirable,
Mother Inviolate,
Mother Most Amiable,
Mother Most Chaste,
Mother Most Pure,
Mother of Christ,
Mother of Divine Grace,
Mother of God,
Mother of Good Counsel,
Mother of Mercy,
Mother of Orphans,
Mother of Our Creator,
Mother of Our Redeemer,
Mother of Sorrows,
Mother of the Church,
Mother of the Poor,
Mother of the Word,
Mother of the Word Incarnate,
Mother Thrice Admirable,
Mother Undefiled,
Mystical Rose,
Nova Eva (the New Eve),
Our Lady of Compassion,
Our Lady of Confidence,
Our Lady of Victory,
Our Lady, Star of the Sea,
Our Mother of Perpetual Help,
Queen Assumed Into Heaven,
Queen Conceived Without Original Sin,
Queen of All Saints,
Queen of Angels,
Queen of Apostles,
Queen of Confessors,
Queen of Families,
Queen of Heaven,
Queen of Martyrs,
Queen of Patriarchs,
Queen of Peace,
Queen of Prophets,
Queen of the Most Holy Rosary,
Queen of Virgins,
Ravisher of Hearts,
Refuge of Sinners,
Resplendant car,
Seat of Wisdom,
She Who Shows the Way,
Singular Vessel of Devotion,
Spiritual Vessel,
Spouse of the Holy Spirit,
Sovereign Mistress of the Angels, 
Tabernacle of the Lord,
Temple of the Holy Spirit,
Temple of the Most Holy Trinity,
Throne of Wisdom,
Tower of David,
Tower of Ivory,
Treasure House of God's Graces,
Untier of Knots,
Vessel of Honor,
Virgin God-bearer,
Virgin Most Faithful,
Virgin Most Merciful,
Virgin Most Powerful,
Virgin Most Prudent,
Virgin Most Renowned,
Virgin Most Venerable
Virgin of virgins,                           born under the law, to HELP redeem those under the law, that we might receive adoption to sonship; sooner or later; and not spend TOO much time in Purgatory.
 

 
 

1,178 posted on 12/21/2018 3:34:58 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Folks; it appears that some things CAN be made up!!!

https://www.google.com/search?q=Untier+of+Knots&ie=&oe=


1,179 posted on 12/21/2018 3:37:24 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Unfailing Novena To The Virgin Mary Untier of Knots
1,180 posted on 12/21/2018 3:39:22 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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