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Science Confirms: Angels Took the House of Our Lady of Nazareth to Loreto
tfp ^ | August 7, 2016 | Luis Dufaur

Posted on 12/08/2018 7:17:28 AM PST by NYer

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To: aMorePerfectUnion
In my seeking, I have come to believe that:
1) Mother Mary is the Spouse of the Holy Spirit, Who is God, and
2) Mother Mary is the Mother of the Son, Who is also God.
We are commanded to not worship a false idol. Do you pray to Jesus? Why?

Who is the Father of Jesus? In other words, did Mary become pregnant by the Holy Spirit?

According to Scripture, Who created Mary?

Something that is interesting to me is that Jesus is not biologically in the line of David. Joseph the Just is His sterp-dad

1,141 posted on 12/18/2018 9:21:47 AM PST by GBA (Beliefs => Reality. Believe... wisely.)
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To: GBA

“ I have come to believe that:
1) Mother Mary is the Spouse of the Holy Spirit, Who is God, and
2) Mother Mary is the Mother of the Son, Who is also God.”

Your belief - no matter how sincere does not make the false true.

“We are commanded to not worship a false idol”

Yet your expressed belief does just this. It is idolatry.


1,142 posted on 12/18/2018 9:31:37 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Then, please, kind sir, do a believer this service:

Tell me which part(s) are false, that I may correct my error(s) and walk in truth.

Thank you, both for me and for the silent others who will benefit.

1,143 posted on 12/18/2018 12:16:50 PM PST by GBA (Beliefs => Reality. Believe... wisely.)
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To: GBA

Not your mother.
Not the spouse of anyone but Joseph.
Not the mother of God.

Never in Scripture.


1,144 posted on 12/18/2018 12:19:54 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
What is in Scripture?

How did Mother Mary get pregnant?

Do you pray to Jesus? Why?

Who are Jesus’ parents?

1,145 posted on 12/18/2018 12:30:44 PM PST by GBA (Beliefs => Reality. Believe... wisely.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Who created Mary?


1,146 posted on 12/18/2018 12:31:22 PM PST by GBA (Beliefs => Reality. Believe... wisely.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Mysterious, isn’t it?


1,147 posted on 12/18/2018 12:32:54 PM PST by GBA (Beliefs => Reality. Believe... wisely.)
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To: GBA

Please simply proving from scripture that your claims are true.

So far you have not.


1,148 posted on 12/18/2018 12:54:51 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Yes, I did, but you chose not to see that.

It’s easy. Just answer the questions as told in Scripture. The seeking is the best part.

Human logic and our rational understanding don’t work all that well with His Spiritual Mysteries.

“You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.”
--Obi-Wan Kenobi

Especially religious truths.

1,149 posted on 12/18/2018 1:14:40 PM PST by GBA (Beliefs => Reality. Believe... wisely.)
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To: GBA

Chapter and verse please.

You’ve not shared it yet.


1,150 posted on 12/18/2018 1:17:11 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Right. You may call that a “win”.

I concede that I haven’t provided chaperter and verse to answer the questions I asked you.

Congratulations, you have vanquished me on the field of spiritual warfare.

Your undefeated record remains untarnished.

1,151 posted on 12/18/2018 1:30:13 PM PST by GBA (Beliefs => Reality. Believe... wisely.)
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To: GBA

Wouldn’t it be better to just discuss what God said??

Are you saying you do not have any scripture references to back up what you are claiming?


1,152 posted on 12/18/2018 1:53:22 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: GBA; aMorePerfectUnion
Something that is interesting to me is that Jesus is not biologically in the line of David. Joseph the Just is His sterp-dad

Sorry, you would not be correct! Jesus' lineage going back to King David is traced from BOTH Joseph (his stepfather) and his biological mother, Mary. See:

    Prophecy
    "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth." Jeremiah 23:5

    Fulfillment
    "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." Revelation 22:16

    Christ's Geneology
    The two primary genealogies of Christ's ancestors are found in Matthew chapter 1, it's the first thing in the New Testament, and then Luke chapter 3.

    Both Luke and Matthew trace the genealogy from Jesus to David, so there's no question that Jesus is the son of David. Matthew goes through Joseph, and it's a patriarchal line.

    Evidently what Luke does, if you'll notice the father of Joseph in Luke is different from the father of Joseph in Matthew. And it says here in Luke chapter 3 verse 23, "And Jesus Himself, being about 30 years of age, being as was supposed the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli."

    Now that's different from what you're going to find in Matthew chapter 1 verse 16. The real father of Joseph is Jacob in Matthew 1:16. But evidently, Joseph's father-in-law, Mary's father, was Heli; and it's tracing the genealogy through Mary's father on. So in the Bible it's not uncommon to call the father-in-law the father. Matthew's genealogy traces it directly through the literal parentage and fathers of Joseph. Luke's genealogy goes and says Joseph's - it was always an insult to just go right to the mother - so it talks about Jesus' father, but it then traces the genealogy through Joseph's father-in-law, which was Heli.

    Now the interesting thing is, there are places where the genealogy of Matthew and Mary merge and they intersect, so Mary and Joseph were [distantly] related also. So it doesn't really matter. Through either one of their genes, Jesus was the son of David. (https://www.bibleuniverse.com/articles/prophecies-fulfilled-by-jesus-first-advent/id/1903/of-davids-lineage)


1,153 posted on 12/18/2018 2:31:29 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: GBA; aMorePerfectUnion

Mary is named *the mother of JESUS* by the Holy Spirit in Scripture. the phrase *mother of God* is nowhere to be found in Scripture.

God tells us how Mary became pregnant in Luke 1:35 “ And the angel answered her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; “

That’s all the detail He gave us and that’s all we need to know.

I don’t pray to Jesus. Jesus commanded us to pray to the Father in His name. I don’t know what anyone else does.

Mary was Jesus mother. God was His father and Joseph was His surrogate father.


1,154 posted on 12/18/2018 5:47:10 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: GBA
1) Mother Mary is the Spouse of the Holy Spirit, Who is God, and

2) Mother Mary is the Mother of the Son, Who is also God.

You've proved neither about Mary from Scripture.

1,155 posted on 12/18/2018 5:49:24 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: metmom

Nor does Scripture give dear Mary the title, “Mother Mary.”


1,156 posted on 12/18/2018 6:09:50 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: GBA; aMorePerfectUnion; ealgeone; boatbums; metmom
Congratulations, you have vanquished me on the field of spiritual warfare.

No one wants to vanquish you at all. People simply want you to rightly divide the word of God, and discover the REAL truth. In my opinion, based on your views of Mary, please consider doing some more honest searching. 👍😇

1,157 posted on 12/18/2018 9:04:03 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17; ealgeone; metmom; Luircin; boatbums; Elsie
Archbishop says he "did not know it was a crime to engage in sex with a child."

1,158 posted on 12/19/2018 10:07:34 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Surely he didn’t say this .......and don’t call me Shirley.


1,159 posted on 12/19/2018 11:01:43 AM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: ealgeone

On video at link


1,160 posted on 12/19/2018 12:05:14 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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