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To: SeekAndFind

YES!! God does NOT LEAD US INTO TEMPTATION!!! This has always bothered me....also “World without End” has always bothered me also.


2 posted on 12/13/2018 9:09:43 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy
God does NOT LEAD US INTO TEMPTATION!!!

How can you say that?

God places temptation in our paths every day.

Booze, beautiful sexual creatures, desirable objects that are not ours, money, power and so on.

A good father teaches his children the correct path and then puts desirable things out where the child can see them and watches to see if the child will obey.

Testing and correction are the way of good parenting.

Why would God not do this?

The good and obedient child obeys but would rather not be tested.

8 posted on 12/13/2018 9:22:10 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: Ann Archy

Jesus knows what he’s talking about.


18 posted on 12/13/2018 9:33:34 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Ann Archy

There’s a cost to changing the core prayer of Christianity that most Christians have said every day of their lives. In addition, “Lead us not into temptation” is poetic; at least, I’ve always understood it to be implying that we are asking God to direct us in the exact opposite direction of temptation.

The Catholic Church is currently being rocked by a series of scandals and this Pope is, to put it mildly, controversial. Is it really necessary right now to mess around with the wording of the Lord’s Prayer? I should think common sense would dictate that rank-and-file Catholics are not the least bit concerned with the accuracy of translations of prayers they’ve said their entire lives and that changing what seemed certain while the Church is being rocked is not the sensible thing to do. In other words, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”


30 posted on 12/13/2018 10:01:29 AM PST by utahagen (but but)
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To: Ann Archy

Ann, try this on for size:

...’and lead us -— NOT into temptation; but deliver us from evil’

To me, this emphasizes how the Lord will lead us AWAY from temptation IF we ask Him in the faith contained in His Prayer. And I didn’t have to change one jot or tittle, just added a little “oomph” to that one word

Let me know how that works for you. It made 1000% difference in my attitude about that bothersome phrase.

-a Roman Catholic since 10/31/1948


39 posted on 12/13/2018 2:01:13 PM PST by Oscar in Batangas (12:01 PM 1/20/2017...The end of an error.)
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To: Ann Archy
Gosh - first the Pope opts to community organize instead of preaching Jesus and now he thinks he can do a better job devising a prayer than Jesus did....it's called the Lord's Prayer because it was given us by the Lord....as an example of how we should pray...Star by praising God, welcome what He has in store for us, acknowledge that He provides us with what we need, admit we commit trespasses and need His forgiveness and that we need to realize that we're no better than those who trespass against us so we need to forgive if we are asking for forgiveness, ask Him to help us not be tempted by Satan's wiles and to protect us from Satan (I usually pray the version which says "deliver us from the Evil One" vs. "from evil" to set solidly that Satan is real) and then end with praising God again.

Perfect prayer that tells us to rely on and love God and only covers a small area that encompasses all about us (depend on God, admit you need His forgiveness, forgive your neighbor as you want to be forgiven - really similar to the great commandment and it's brother....Love God with every fiber of your being and love your neighbor as yourself - for where there is love, there is no harm and that in and of itself satisfies the intent of the Law.....)

....and the Pope wants to "improve" on it?

46 posted on 12/14/2018 2:40:39 AM PST by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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