Posted on 12/14/2018 5:56:56 AM PST by Gamecock
No, that is incorrect. The child of the adultery died, as punishment.
Solomon was conceived and born after Uriah was killed and Bathsheba was a legal wife of David.
I misspoke, while a child of their relationship was Solomon the child of the original adultery died. I wish there was a way to correct the post.
You just did, as best as Freerepublic allows.
Read the article ... he does explain his comment. Remember that Joseph wanted to divorce her, until the Angel told him otherwise.
Wrong.
Nobody in Scripture is identified as a biological child of Mary except Jesus.
Mark
Wrong.
Well, yes it does. If the woman in Rev 12:2 is crying out in pain that is a direct result of the punishment in Genesis 3.
Roman Catholicism claims Mary was sinless....if she were sinless she wouldn't have the punishment upon her.
If you're trying to say Mary is in 12:1 but not 12:2 you've tossed aside every grammatical way to read a sentence known to mankind.
Nobody in Scripture is identified as a biological child of Mary except Jesus.
However Scripture does tell us Jesus had brothers and sisters.
Joseph kept Mary a virgin until He was born then they were free to consummate the marriage like any regular married couple....and that they did. Unless you're willing to again suspend the clear, normal meaning of the texts.
You’re also having to ignore a number of other texts that indicate Mary and Joseph did have other children on their own.
Thanks.
Nobody in Scripture is identified as a biological child of Mary except Jesus.
Both James and Joses is recognized as the sons of another Mary who is the wife of Clopas.
But I did not see any other of the apostles except James, the Lord's brother. Galatians 1:19 NASB
And let's not play the brother means game either. The Greek has other words for cousins which are not used in these or the other passages dealing with this topic.
You do realize there were multiple people with same names in the NT time period....right?
IOW, God LOVES to save people.
That actually makes a lot of sense as a woman is going to be most fertile when she ovulates, shortly after her period is over.
I would expect that to be the most likely.
What makes David's betrayal of Uriah worse was that Uriah was one of David's closest, trusted warriors.
He is listed in 1 Chronicles 11 and 2 Samuel 23 with many other of David's mighty men, and the reading of the passages implies that Uriah was one of David's body guards.
Scripture tells us that Jesus was her FIRSTBORN son, and since we know that those *ignorant sheepherders* can at least count, they would understand the difference between ONLY son and FIRSTBORN son.
But as he considered these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.” All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had spoken by the prophet: “Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel” (which means, God with us). When Joseph woke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him: he took his wife, but knew her not until she had given birth to a son. And he called his name Jesus.
Psalm 69:8 I have become a stranger to my brothers, an alien to my mother's sons.
Matthew 1:24-25 When Joseph woke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him: he took his wife, but knew her not until she had given birth to a son. And he called his name Jesus.
Matthew 12:46-47 While He was still speaking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers were standing outside, seeking to speak to Him. And someone said to Him, “Behold, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside seeking to speak to You.”
Matthew 13:55 “Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?”
Mark 6:2-3 And when the Sabbath had come, He began to teach in the synagogue; and the many listeners were astonished, saying, “Where did this man get these things, and what is this wisdom given to Him, and such miracles as these performed by His hands?”... “Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, and brother of James, and Joses, and Judas, and Simon? Are not His sisters here with us?”
Luke 2:6-8 And while they were there, the time came for her to give birth. And she gave birth to her firstborn son and wrapped him in swaddling cloths and laid him in a manger, because there was no place for them in the inn.
John 2:12 After this He went down to Capernaum, He and His mother, and His brothers, and His disciples; and there they stayed a few days.”
Acts 1:14 These all with one mind were continually devoting themselves to prayer, along with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with His brothers.
1 Corinthians 9:4-5 Do we not have a right to eat and drink? Do we not have a right to take along a believing wife, even as the rest of the apostles, and the brothers of the Lord, and Cephas?
Galatians 1:19 But I did not see any other of the apostles except James, the Lord’s brother
Please provide Scripture to back up your assertation.
http://biblehub.com/greek/80.htm
adelphos: a brother
Original Word: ἀδελφός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: adelphos
Phonetic Spelling: (ad-el-fos')
Short Definition: a brother
Definition: a brother, member of the same religious community, especially a fellow-Christian.
Here is a link to the occurrences of the Greek word *adelphos*.
http://biblehub.com/greek/80.htm
The word *sister* (adelphe) in the Greek is the same.
http://biblehub.com/greek/79.htm
The word used is *brother* not *cousin*.
It can't mean a member of the same religious community in the context in which they occur, because then that would mean every man in Israel could be identified as Jesus' brother. So that would not identify Jesus as anyone in particular's brother.
It's not going to mean *brother in Christ* as that concept was not yet in place and the Jews, who knew Jesus as a Jew and knew His brothers as Jews, would not even begin to understand the new birth and what being in Christ meant.
They didn't even understand who JESUS was, much less being a *brother in Christ*.
The only definition left then, is to mean physical brother.
And it would not be *cousin*.
The word for *relative* that is used for Elizabeth is *suggenes*, not *adelphe*.
http://biblehub.com/greek/4773.htm
Strong's Concordance
suggenes: akin, a relative
Original Word: συγγενής, ές
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: suggenes
Phonetic Spelling: (soong-ghen-ace')
Short Definition: akin, a relative
Definition: akin to, related; subst: fellow countryman, kinsman.
Of course their usage of brother was the normal sense of the word.
They thought Jesus was the son of Mary and Joseph. They had not reason not to. So they had no reason to try to fudge words to make something look like the case that wasn’t.
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