Posted on 12/17/2018 12:53:25 PM PST by Morgana
Truthfully, I have no problem with his words.
The coach sounds like a jerk. He should have respected the family’s wishes, and remained absent and silent.
I read the Priest’s full sermon and found nothing objectionable. It contained great encouragement, as well as honest truth.
The father should have had the opportunity to speak, at least informally after the Mass had ended. I’m not sure why the Priest tried to prevent that.
Neither was I. Grew up in the pool and on a baseball field. Swimming, wrestling (my preference) and football all conflicted.
However, my best friend - who was on an opposing baseball team - played football and told me stories. At the time, it sounded harsh, but after joining the Army it was no longer harsh. In hindsight, maybe I needed a harsher coach for both baseball AND swimming.
Just to be clear: Football coaches - in my experience - should NEVER be permitted to teach an academic class (I won’t go into it).
The Catholic priesthood is rife with pedophiles and pederasts. You go ahead and sit in the pews giving them undeserved respect and money. I’m sure God will forgive you.
This is true.
But..... Didn’t the parents have a choice here? They chose a catholic funeral. They got one.
That’s just a catholic teaching.
But if the coach taunted them after the funeral, and attended just to rub something in. He deserves anything that happens to him.
“Was he just being tough on the kid or was the kid and his parents just snowflakes who could not take the heat?”
The heat, as you call it, and its application is also the job of the coach to determine if it is in excess for the team or any individual player. It’s also his job to determine if the kids can handle the pressure applied in a positive way and not lose it. If a family ideal is not consistent with the school’s and coach’s theories on the psychological part of the game at a high school level, which means absolutely nothing in the long run, then I blame the school, the coaches, and the parents for not making the effort of intervening since there was a history. Everyone failed in this one.
And the coach was asked not to attend, and he did it anyway just to spite them. Then they should have had him arrested as he was asked not to attend, and to leave once there uninvited and refused. The coach is a complete a$$ plus just as ignorant as one. And that’s in addition to his failure as a youth coach
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... there are many avenues for his attaining salvation despite this most serious sin.
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Sorry, I’m compelled to correct you and state that there is one way for this boy and anyone else. And my source is pretty good. His name is Jesus. Being born again through him is the one way in, and that is regardless of sins past, present and future. If you or anybody else doesn’t know the day when they invited Christ into their life as their Lord and savior, I’d suggest doing it now. And if you have questions, read the Bible. Specifically the New Testament which is the story of Christ. Ask him to speak to you. What a gift to give yourself this Christmas season.
Same with Jews and suicide. Until the 20th century, Jewish suicides could not be buried in a Jewish cemetery. Now they are considered to be mentally ill.
The priest sounds like a first class jackass. The dad even got out of his seat and asked him to please stop the service and he ignored him.
A funeral is when the family needs comfort. The idiot priest coulda preached about it next sunday and unloaded there. That was not the time.
But what does he know about family? A virgin man in a dress.
I studied General Science under a very successful HS football coach. I’m not gonna pretend he was the best academic teacher in the school, but he wasn’t the worst, either. The worst was pretty much the opposite of him, in the sense that he was undisciplined and therefore a poor disciplinarian. The football coach intimidated everyone just by walking in the room - and therefore ran a perfectly calm, well-behaved classroom.
“At one stage, Maison’s father approached the pulpit and asked him to stop speaking but he continued on.
Maison’s family said the priest spoke about him as if he was a sinner +6
Maison’s family said the priest spoke about him as if he was a sinner
Maison’s mother said the priest ‘basically’ called him a ‘sinner’.
‘It was what he wanted. He said nothing about what we asked him to say’.
In addition to his hurtful homily, the priest tried to finish the service without letting Jeff get up to speak.
‘I had words prepared, but when (the priest) was done, he was going to finish mass without giving anybody else the opportunity to say anything.
‘He had the organist start playing and they were going to roll the casket out — some nerve.
‘Our funeral director by this time was at the front of the church. We had to have the funeral director walk over and stop the organist,’ he said.”
That’s a pure jackass move on the part of the priest.
In running the movie projectors. Teaching? Meh.
Did you actually read his homily, or are you just piling on because everyone else is? His homily was completely orthodox and right on the money. Executive summary: "Suicide is a serious sin, all of us are sinners, Jesus is the answer." That makes the priest a first-class jackass?
If the parents didn't want Christianity preached at their son's funeral, they should have had him buried from the Unitarian church, where none (or very little) of that obnoxious Christian stuff would intrude.
Maison's mother is apparently too ignorant of her own faith to know that ALL of us are sinners.
“And the coach was asked not to attend”
Actually the article said he was asked not to attend by a friend of the family.
But you see here in lies a problem also. This was a Funeral Mass at the church. Any Mass is open for all Catholics be they funeral, marriage, baptism or just a regular Mass. Unless for some reason he has been banned by the diocese he may attend as a Catholic, although I don’t know if he is. The family has no power to bar him from attending any Mass even the Funeral of their son. The only way they could have is have it at a local Funeral Parlor and outside the Church.
Nobody (not even the priest) is entitled to give a eulogy at a Catholic funeral. That belongs at a wake or afterwards. I know it's done, sometimes, but it's technically an abuse.
Ironically, the football coaches who taught were so lackadaisical - as opposed to disciplinarians - that the classes were a total joke.
I transferred.
Yeah I read it. A funeral isn’t a public inquest and inquiry into the sins of the dead. The priest is a jackass.
He has the rest of his career to make it his mission in life if that’s what he thinks is important. But THAT particular day, his mission was a little comfort for those grieving parents.
He was grandstanding.
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