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Football coach is fired for attending funeral of teen he 'bullied' against his parents' wishes...
Daily Mail UK ^ | DECEMBER 17, 2018 | Jennifer Smith

Posted on 12/17/2018 12:53:25 PM PST by Morgana

FULL TITLE: Football coach is fired for attending funeral of teen he 'bullied' against his parents' wishes then taunting them on Facebook after the service where the boy's parents say the priest painted their son as a 'sinner'

A full version of the homily LaCuesta's homily has also emerged but it does not make reference to heaven as the boy's parents said it did.

According to the version which was circulated on Monday, the priest said: 'I think that we must not call what is bad good, what is wrong right.

'Because we are Christians, we must say what we know is the truth – that taking your own life is against God who made us and against everyone who loves us.

'Our lives are not our own. They are not ours to do with as we please. God gave us life, and we are to be good stewards of that gift for as long as God permits.

'The finality of suicide makes this all the worse. You cannot make things right again.'

He did not mention the word heaven but said: 'Christ Jesus sits at the right hand of God even now, interceding for this one who could not stand before God on his/her own.

'Truly, none of us can stand before God on our own. We all need Christ to intercede for us, to plead our case. And here's the good news: Christ has never lost a case!'

Though he said that God would forgive 'all', 'even suicide', the fact that he use the word so many times was hurtful to Maison's parents.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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Don't know what happened between this family and the coach but the Priest is correct. Unless that kid was so mentally Ill and was very far gone that he did not know what he was doing chances are he did not go to heaven and that is what the Church teaches.
1 posted on 12/17/2018 12:53:25 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

He did not need to rub the grieving parents’ faces in it.


2 posted on 12/17/2018 12:56:08 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Morgana

Here is a link to the actual text.

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/12/16/father.lacuesta.homily.maison.hullibarger.funeral.pdf


4 posted on 12/17/2018 1:04:36 PM PST by Hieronymus ((It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: colorado tanker; Chode; Salvation

I don’t know where to draw the line. So many kids to day are killing themselves. No really teen suicide is up! Someone needs to say this is a terrible sin! When if not now is the time? It’s gets the message across to other teens.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2018/12/14/experts-question-whether-smartphones-lead-rising-depression-teens/2266882002/


5 posted on 12/17/2018 1:07:17 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

He bullied the teen against the parents’ wishes?

Headlines: Gotta love ‘em.


6 posted on 12/17/2018 1:08:03 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Morgana

Wow when I first heard about this story I didn’t hear about the angle with the coach too sheesh!

This family has been through living Hell, compounded mightily by the coach’s incredibly self centered behavior and yes by the priest’s homily as well.

Was he (Father) correct, theologically, in everything he said? Yes he was. But it certainly was not the time (at the Mass for their son) to say something like that.

He’s young though he’ll learn (I note the Archdiocese assigned him a mentor for the foreseeable future. Good call).

The coach will probably continue to be an ass though.


7 posted on 12/17/2018 1:08:09 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein

We don’t have proof if either!


8 posted on 12/17/2018 1:08:17 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: logi_cal869

But was he really? Think about it he was on the football team. Football coaches are harsh. How many of you remember your football coach? They are tough because they want the players to be tough and win the game. Was he just being tough on the kid or was the kid and his parents just snowflakes who could not take the heat?


9 posted on 12/17/2018 1:10:08 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

I think you didn’t get the joke, but you make a valid point.

Some kids are just pussies, born of pussies.


10 posted on 12/17/2018 1:12:26 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

Guess not :P

Then again I was never on the football team! But I remember the coach! He was like a drill sergeant out there on the field and sometimes in the classroom like he could not tell the two apart.


11 posted on 12/17/2018 1:15:24 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein
Very often, the priest's obligation is to tell people what they DON'T want to hear.

The family should consider themselves lucky they were able to have a funeral Mass for the kid. For most of its history the Catholic Church prohibited funeral Masses in cases of suicide. That only changed when modern research involving mental illness added a degree of uncertainty about the willful nature of a suicide victim's actions.

12 posted on 12/17/2018 1:16:18 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: Morgana

The coach sounds like a real @ss


13 posted on 12/17/2018 1:19:14 PM PST by Conserv (alifornia soe)
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To: Morgana
I suspect there's more to this story than meets the eye.

The "teen" in this tragic story is 18 years old, and he was a student at the University of Toledo.

The "coach" is his former high school football coach who hasn't coached the kid in more than a year.

14 posted on 12/17/2018 1:20:39 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: Alberta's Child

The Catholic Church is corrupt beyond belief. Same for the public school system.


15 posted on 12/17/2018 1:23:14 PM PST by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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To: Alberta's Child

I think one must be mentally ill to commit suicide. I could be wrong but if you think hard about this, I think it’s not even debatable.


16 posted on 12/17/2018 1:25:36 PM PST by SaintDismas
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein
Maybe so. But there's nothing "corrupt" about this priest's homily.

It sounds like the family went to a Catholic priest when they really wanted a grief counselor.

17 posted on 12/17/2018 1:27:17 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: Morgana

A lot of someones need to actually act like life is a vessel of wonderful grace. Spending sufficiently long in a dark room, people forget what light was ever like. It’s hard to care about “sin” when the people talking about it don’t strive to make their lives illustrate the diametric opposite of it (grace).


18 posted on 12/17/2018 1:28:53 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (May Jesus Christ be praised.)
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein; colorado

That is a really horrid thing to say. Maybe your pastor is sexually abusing people too, but we won’t hear about it because it’s not the largest denomination? How do you like that?

I read the priest’s homily, and it was all about how despite his having committed suicide, there are many avenues for his attaining salvation despite this most serious sin.

For Catholics who actually know their faith, this would have been comforting.

For Catholics who think everyone gets to Heaven immediately after death, and that a Catholic Mass is about the life of the deceased and the mourners, instead of worshipping God and praying for the soul of the deceased, it would not have made any sense.


19 posted on 12/17/2018 1:31:11 PM PST by Chicory
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To: Morgana

I’m sorry, but this priest is a dumb@ss. The time for this particular sermon is at Sunday mass, not at this kid’s funeral.


20 posted on 12/17/2018 1:32:54 PM PST by Mozzafiato
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