Andy Stanley says Ten Commandments don't apply to Christians

Christian Post ^ | 01/10/2019 | Michael Gryboski

[BipolarBob]

The Sermon on the Mount gets into the intent of the Law and the intent of the heart.

Correct. Which is what the New Covenant addresses. Instilling the Holy Spirit in our heart to fortify us to keep His Laws inwardly as well as outwardly.

[Jemian]

Andy Stanley is profoundly wrong.

The Ten Commandments

1. Show us God's pure character
2. Shows us what we can do to please God (by behaving like Him
   
3. Shows us we do not have the ability to obey God and we need help.

[Bulwyf]

Those new greatest commandments to me encompass the old ones. If you do those two things, you’re already following the ten.

[BipolarBob]

I could show you a bunch of verses showing that. For example Col. 2:14-17. The differences between the Ten Commandments and the laws of ordinances are so plain only a person unfamiliar with Scripture would be ignorant of it. Are you a new convert, by chance?

[job]

Right, and how can you love God with all your heart mind strength and soul, and your neighbor, if you do not obey the Ten Commandments? Can you love God when you take his name in vain? Can you love your neighbor if you commit adultery with his wife? Or steal from him?

[OpusatFR]

This is another attempt to replace the Commandments with social justice decrees.

The earth takes precedence over human life, but man's laws are ascendant over any so-called deity who cannot be proven to exist. We are close now.

[Bulwyf]

If you love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and soul and love your neighbor as yourself then I would say that covers murder etc. You’re not murdering or stealing etc if you’re doing the two commandments Jesus mentioned.

[imardmd1]

He doesn't know how to dress to show self-acceptance and respect for the Lord His Maker as well as his audience, about Whom he pretends to be a God-appointed messenger.

Bunch of credulous Bible-slackers paying for his meals. He should get some real work, not slide in nder his father's halo effect.

[SkyDancer]

Well Yeshua did say what the two greatest Commandment are.

[Terry Mross]

Jesus’ quote can be construed as to mean live these two commandments and don’t worry about the other eight. I’ve always wondered why HE said that.

[aimhigh]

Go back to Romans 7, Paul clearly points to the 10th of the 10 commandments when saying we have died to the law, and are freed from it. Are you a new convert?

Jesus said, "I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.” Matthew 5:17-18

When Jesus fulfilled the law, the law passed away. The law is called a ministry of death in 2 Cor 3:7.

[BipolarBob]

The study implied the two were all that was left after some great calamity, say, a flood, maybe?

So you think that only two people were on the Ark? What do you base that on? certainly not the Bible.

[GOPJ]

Jesus upheld the Old Testament Commandments: “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill” (Matthew 5:17).

[BipolarBob]

Jesus said, "I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.” Matthew 5:17-18

A question, oh confused one, has Heaven and earth passed away? The earth seems pretty solid to me. I look up in the sky and the heavens remain.
Read and meditate on Hosea 4:6. It explains your dilemma.

[kosciusko51]

The Sermon on the Mount gets into the intent of the Law and the intent of the heart.

Correct. Which is what the New Covenant addresses. Instilling the Holy Spirit in our heart to fortify us to keep His Laws inwardly as well as outwardly.

But not perfectly. Otherwise, why would John say (1 John 1:5-10 NASB):

5 This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.

6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth;

7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.

[DesertRhino]

Old testament is history and background. The New Testament and Jesus is what we follow.

[BipolarBob]

But not perfectly.
Has someone on this forum claimed perfection? Don't keep us in suspense, who is this person? I say we all dependent on God for salvation.

[kosciusko51]

I was clarifying, not accusing.

[chesley]

Very true; with that I can agree. Jesus’ commandment covers the others, but that does not mean they don’t apply. Perhaps you can look at it like this, the NT gives us the objective, to love one another, the OT, the Big 10 anyway, tells us how love is to be shown.

[kosciusko51]

To follow up: just following the 10 commandments will not earn you salvation. We do depend on God for salvation.