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The Catholic Doctrine of No Salvation Outside the Church

Come on home!

14 posted on 01/12/2019 9:50:56 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
The Catholic Doctrine of No Salvation Outside the Church

Never in Scripture. Salvation is in Christ alone.

Come on home!

I did. Home to Him, eternal life, and assurance of salvation.

Wouldn't trade it for anything and especially a religious system of useless rituals and works and perpetual guilt.

16 posted on 01/12/2019 9:53:19 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ebb tide
The Catholic Doctrine of No Salvation Outside the Church

"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours."

--Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)

47 posted on 01/12/2019 3:19:04 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide; aMorePerfectUnion
The Catholic Doctrine of No Salvation Outside the Church Come on home!

To which church? We are told by modern RCs that your position on Extra Ecclesiam is wrong as excluding baptized faithful. Prots from salvation.<

I actually concur that you have the better case for EENS meaning “that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff," (Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam) ”no one, whatever almsgiving he has practiced, even if he has shed blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has remained in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.” — Pope Eugene IV and the Council of Florence p>And I think my compilation of RC Extra Ecclesiam quotes are overall better since most of yours are subject to the V2 spin it pits on such terms as "separated from the body of the Catholic Church", "nor be saved outside the Catholic Church," and or they are not from popes or councils.

However, whether modern or traditional, both are false churches, albeit yet retaining salvific truths amidst her trappings of deviating traditions, for distinctive Catholic teachings are not manifest in the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed (including how they understood the OT and gospels), which is Scripture, especially Acts thru Revelation. /p>

84 posted on 01/12/2019 5:54:36 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: ebb tide; aMorePerfectUnion; daniel1212
The Catholic Doctrine of No Salvation Outside of the Church

I suppose that works if one believes the Church to be God. But to some that sounds a bit like idolatry or at best a cult.

94 posted on 01/12/2019 6:38:58 PM PST by HarleyD
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