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To: Salvation

Only in the RCC tradition is it a sin for my wife to marry me and considered to live in adultery after she divorced her monster of a first husband who beat her daily, was a drunk and whoremonger...she married him stupidly when she was 19 and in a bad home situation...

Oh...we have been very happily married for 38 years....

Thankfully, she was not raised a RC inspite of her father being one...


8 posted on 01/19/2019 12:24:15 PM PST by Popman
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To: Popman

I’m not Catholic, but I think they allow remarriage when the first marriage had adultery and physical abuse by the other partner.


9 posted on 01/19/2019 12:28:31 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Popman

“Only in the RCC tradition is it a sin for my wife to marry me and considered to live in adultery after she divorced “

Not true. Evangelicals believe that as well. After her first husband dies, then the adultery ends. And it’s not a “tradition”; it’s Biblical.


11 posted on 01/19/2019 12:33:29 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Popman

“Only in the RCC tradition is it a sin for my wife to marry me and considered to live in adultery after she divorced her monster of a first husband who beat her daily, was a drunk and whoremonger...she married him stupidly when she was 19 and in a bad home situation...”

Glad you found each other.

Catholics would have gotten a marriage termination - annulment - in this situation.

Since you were not Catholic, it is a non-issue. Christ allowed divorce for adultery.

Go and be blessed.


19 posted on 01/19/2019 1:04:27 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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Did you get your marriage annulled?


23 posted on 01/19/2019 1:07:52 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Popman; MayflowerMadam
You aren't Catholic; your wife isn't Catholic, so I'm not sure why you're trying to inject your situation into a Catholic discussion. Put another way, if you and your wife were Catholics, how do you know her first marriage could not have been declared null by the Church?

You don't, so I don't understand what your objection is. You're not subject to Catholic Church law, so you didn't go by it. I'm not subject to Indonesian law. I don't go by that. There's no difference.

As Mayflower correctly notes, this isn't really a Catholic thing. It's a New Testament thing.

As a point of information, if your wife were a Catholic, and her first marriage was (as you say) a civil ceremony, the annulment could have been granted on those grounds alone, without even considering the various other problems in her first marriage.

50 posted on 01/19/2019 3:14:50 PM PST by Campion ((marine dad))
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Only in the RCC tradition is it a sin for my wife to marry me ...

It is the Messiah's word, and it is a hard saying. There is an RCC tradition pertaining to Catholics and their spouses where the Church has the apostolic authority to declare a marriage was not a sacramental marriage. Without that, one is on one's own, so to speak.

  • It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
  • But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

    ...

  • The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
  • And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
  • And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
  • Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
  • They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
  • He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
  • And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.


Matthew, Catholic chapter five, Protestant verses thirty one to thirty two ,
Matthew, Catholic chapter nineteen, Protestant verses three to nine ,
as authorized, but not authored by, King James

52 posted on 01/19/2019 4:14:29 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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