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Bishop writes of ‘cowards,’ ‘episcopal arrogance,’ ‘insular’ hierarchy, need for lay involvement
The Deacon's Bench ^ | November 17, 2018 | Deacon Greg Kandra

Posted on 01/27/2019 10:17:03 AM PST by neverevergiveup

From the superlative Bishop Shawn McKnight of Jefferson City, writing to his flock after the meeting in Baltimore:

At the time of this writing, there has not been one bishop, archbishop or cardinal in either the Holy See or the United States who has come forward on his own to repent publicly of his sins of omission or commission with regard to Archbishop McCarrick’s series of promotions over decades. Please, be men, not cowards, and come clean on your own! There doesn’t have to be a formal and long, drawn out investigation for a bishop to exercise a little compunction and concern for the well-being of the whole Church. An independent and transparent investigation is all the more necessary when culpable hierarchs exhibit an incapacity to do the right thing on their own.

The laity are the only ones who can keep the hierarchy accountable and get us out of the mess we bishops got ourselves into. My singular focus throughout the Baltimore meeting was to advocate and push for greater public involvement of the laity at all levels of the Church. Why can’t we have well qualified, nationally known and trusted lay experts named to the special task force announced by the president of the USCCB? We are too insular and closed in as a hierarchy, and so are some of our processes at the USCCB. The Second Vatican Council gave us not only the freedom but the obligation to utilize and engage the gifts and talents of the laity in the life and mission of the Church.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: arrogance; catholic; priest
A few month's old, but I just read this. I think there is clearly arrogance within the Catholic Church hierarchy, and indeed in probably too many clergy of all stripes. I think involvement of the laity in oversight is not a bad idea. Thoughts?
1 posted on 01/27/2019 10:17:03 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: neverevergiveup

I’ve read some quotes from eatlrly saints and theologians that say the floor of he’ll is paved with the skulls of bishops, and the like.


2 posted on 01/27/2019 10:23:10 AM PST by Fido969 (In!)
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To: neverevergiveup

New York and Illinois have just passed the most barbaric, baby killing laws ever to be recorded in the American legal codicil. The vile governors gleefully and publicly signed these abominations The Catholic Cardinals of New York, Dolan and Chicago, Cucich have said and done virtually nothing. Witness how the homosexual corruption of the Catholic Church has destroyed its moral authority.


3 posted on 01/27/2019 10:27:21 AM PST by allendale (.)
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To: neverevergiveup
it is too much of the good ol boys club.....which is okay and works well when the good ol boys are moral and ethical, but when they are not, look out....

the bottom line in any corruption is MONEY....how do we the laity stop the money from supporting evil...

4 posted on 01/27/2019 10:32:38 AM PST by cherry
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To: cherry

“the bottom line in any corruption is MONEY....how do we the laity stop the money from supporting evil...”

Stop donating.

If they turn a gospel reading into a SJW batching of the laity asking for more money and more liberal sermons, donate that week’s pledge to the Salvation Army.

Let your priest/reverend and senior members know what you did and why.


5 posted on 01/27/2019 12:30:39 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Liberals//GOPe's 2019 Strategy, mantra, plan = 'No Borders, No Walls, No USA at All!'!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Haven’t donated a nickle to the SA ever since they joined the “resistance” when they pulled out of Trump’s charity tourney in Aug, 2017

They made the mistake of going political and on top of that, they joined the wrong side.

They now occupy a space next to the Red Cross on my “Do Not Donate” list.


6 posted on 01/27/2019 1:05:34 PM PST by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: Grampa Dave

“stop donating”

We don’t put anything into the Sunday basket since a large percentage goes to the Bishop. People who put money in the baskets on Sunday are part of the problem.
Another part is petition the federal government to stop giving church organizations money. I’ve read that 40% of the Bishops money comes through Catholic Charities and the like to do the governments bidding.

That said, the Bishops are in control of all the property of the Catholic Church. People have to be prepared to lose all those beautiful buildings, works of art etc. IMO once they are gone these parasites will leave the Church.


7 posted on 01/28/2019 7:28:40 AM PST by Varda
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To: neverevergiveup

Stop sitting in their pews.


8 posted on 01/28/2019 7:30:35 AM PST by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: Varda

You are correct on all 3 points.

Big government money goes to churches, who “help” the illegals to get more benefits.

Bishops/Dioceses for many Christian churches own the churches and the properties. Also, they tell the local church goers, who their priest/pastor will be, and how much local money goes to the next layer, 35 to 50%.


9 posted on 01/28/2019 9:15:02 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Liberals//GOPe's 2019 Strategy, mantra, plan = 'No Borders, No Walls, No USA at All!'!)
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To: Roccus

Good for you.

With holding money and donations limits their power to corrupt or to ignore corruption.


10 posted on 01/28/2019 9:19:47 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Liberals//GOPe's 2019 Strategy, mantra, plan = 'No Borders, No Walls, No USA at All!'!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Any kind of account can also be confiscated. For one little parish I belonged to it was 100% of their savings. The Dioscese swooped in and took it all (that was when Wuerl was Bishop). No explanation, they “needed” it. They also took all the old ledgers and books. The parish was established in 1839 and had kept all it’s old records.

I see it as the “eye of the needle” moment for the faithful. In theology we were taught the “eye of the needle” was an actual canyon which fully laden camels could not pass through. So the people would unload the camels on one end, walk the camel through, then go back and walk the cargo through and reload the camels on the other end. Some will have to “unload” their affection for all the worldly goods the church has.


11 posted on 01/28/2019 9:39:00 AM PST by Varda
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