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Ecclesiastes 1:9 (NIV) What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.

2 Timothy 4:1-5 (NIV) 1 In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge: 2 Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction. 3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. 5 But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry.

Wikipedia - Fundamentalist–Modernist controversy

The Fundamentalist–Modernist controversy is a major schism that originated in the 1920s and '30s within the Presbyterian Church in the United States of America. At issue were foundational disputes about the role of Christianity, the authority of Scripture, the death, Resurrection, and atoning sacrifice of Jesus.[1] Two broad factions within Protestantism emerged; Evangelicals who held to traditional Christian Orthodoxy, and Modernists who to varying degrees argued that "antiquated" beliefs should be modified for the times. At first, the schism was limited to Reformed Christianity and centered about Princeton Theological Seminary, but soon spread, affecting every denomination of Christianity in the United States. Denominations that were not initially affected, such as the Lutheran Church, eventually were embroiled in the controversy leading to a schism in the Lutheran Church.

By the end of the 1930s proponents of Theological Liberalism had, at the time, effectively won the debate,[2] with the Modernists in control of all Mainline Protestant seminaries, publishing houses and denominational hierarchies in the United States.[3] More conservative Christians withdrew from the mainstream,[3] founding their own publishing houses such as Zondervan, universities (such as Biola University and Liberty University) and seminaries (such as Dallas Theological Seminary and Fuller Theological Seminary). This would remain the state of affairs until the 1970s, when conservative Christianity reemerged, resulting in the resurgence of traditional Christianity among the Southern Baptists, Presbyterians and others.

Overview of the 3 plans for the 2019 UMC Special Session

United Methodist Bishops release recommendation to 2019 General Conference

5/04/2018 - Guided by the mission, vision and scope document, the bishops agreed to recommend the One Church Plan. This plan provides conferences, churches, and pastors the flexibility to uniquely reach their missional context while retaining the connectional nature of The United Methodist Church.

The One Church Plan allows for contextualization of language about human sexuality in support of the mission; and allows for central conferences, especially those in Africa, to retain their disciplinary authority to adapt the Book of Discipline and continue to include traditional language and values while fulfilling the vision of a global and multicultural church.

So, what are your predictions of the outcome of this Special Session?

1 posted on 02/21/2019 8:50:16 AM PST by MacNaughton
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To: MacNaughton

More of the same. According to them you’d think Wesley started the Methodist church to further gayness and abortions.


2 posted on 02/21/2019 8:55:18 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: MacNaughton

Well, the ELCA did several “studies” about human sexuality until they were able to create the loophole they were searching for. I predict that the UMC will find one too so that they can allow homosexual marriages and still sleep at night. Instead of exploring options to strengthen unity maybe they should seek to strengthen purity within the church. One day God will separate the goats from the sheep and there will be no unity only purity and holiness. I wonder if God will send them a lightning bolt to help them see how seriously He will judge their heresy.


3 posted on 02/21/2019 9:20:39 AM PST by punknpuss
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To: MacNaughton

Leaving aside all the various theological distinctives and disputations, there’s one common thread in many of the “modernizations” of Roman Catholicism, Protestantism (several denominations) and (”reform”) Judaism....

an almost visceral allergy to even the most basic of moral teachings

in many cases, look beyond the smokescreen for just a moment... and it boils down to some people wanting to live like animals (rather than taking responsibility for their lives or a family or anything else)


4 posted on 02/21/2019 9:46:04 AM PST by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: MacNaughton; Salvation; Cronos; AppyPappy; Albion Wilde; Kolokotronis

The bishops’ support of the one church plan is entirely predictable. The one church plan is the pro-homosexuality plan. The traditional plan is the historic Christian plan.

The real issue is whether the petition to allow churches to leave the denomination with their property and finances passes. If so, it’s a victory.

The 2 plans mean either a gay denomination or the status quo. The status quo means the rebellious groups will continue rebelling, even though supposedly tougher penalties will be on the books.


8 posted on 02/22/2019 3:19:39 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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