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To: ecomcon

“If we can in any way pay for our sins, Christ’s death was insufficient.”

1) Purgatory is NOT about any human person paying for his or her sins.

2) The existence of Purgatory in no way at all means Christ’s death was insufficient because it is precisely Christ’s death on the Cross and the grace won by it that powers the cleansing we call Purgatory or Final Theosis.

“The Catholic doctrine of purgatory is error, and a false gospel.”

No, the error is in your understanding. Maybe you should learn what Purgatory is before you post attacks getting it wrong.


13 posted on 03/13/2019 7:23:20 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

Roman Catholic theology, for example, allows for prayers both to the dead and on behalf of them. But even Catholic authorities admit that there is no explicit authorization for prayers on behalf of the dead in the sixty-six books of canonical Scripture. Instead, they appeal to the Apocrypha (2 Maccabees 12:45), church tradition, the decree of the Council of Trent, etc., to defend the practice.


16 posted on 03/13/2019 7:57:50 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: vladimir998
1) Purgatory is NOT about any human person paying for his or her sins.

Your own catechism says "expiation" ...

18 posted on 03/13/2019 8:04:39 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: vladimir998
Let me help enlighten folks; from the Catechism:
 

III. THE FINAL PURIFICATION, OR PURGATORY

1030 All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven.

1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.606 The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:607

As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that, before the Final Judgment, there is a purifying fire. He who is truth says that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this age nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come.608

1032 This teaching is also based on the practice of prayer for the dead, already mentioned in Sacred Scripture: "Therefore [Judas Maccabeus] made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin."609 From the beginning the Church has honored the memory of the dead and offered prayers in suffrage for them, above all the Eucharistic sacrifice, so that, thus purified, they may attain the beatific vision of God.610 The Church also commends almsgiving, indulgences, and works of penance undertaken on behalf of the dead:

Let us help and commemorate them. If Job's sons were purified by their father's sacrifice, why would we doubt that our offerings for the dead bring them some consolation? Let us not hesitate to help those who have died and to offer our prayers for them.611

182 posted on 03/14/2019 12:45:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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