[aMorePerfectUnion]

Claud,

“Mary was never elevated to any sort of divine anything, and in fact when one sect DID do something like that (the Collyridians) Epiphanius called it a heresy.”

Mary was and is called all sorts of heretical divine titles.

Ping to Elsie, keeper of the false-titles-of-mary-list.

“I posted the Scriptural support from St. Paul and implied from Christ Himself. “

Clearly speaking about works being judged and not people. Works being tested and either coming forth as “gold and precious gems”, or “wood hay and stubble” being burned. People were not being tested, nor burned. In fact, Paul says the person who has all his wasted works burned up is saved. This happens at the Bema seat and is for the saved. It only determines rewards in heaven.

“Every instance of prayers for the dead are wrong. “

We agree on this statement.

“I can show you tons of evidence the doctrine was upheld.”

Great! That is what I asked for. Please go ahead now and post tons of evidence from before 100ad that demonstrates anyone believing or teaching this doctrine Claud.

Thank you.

Best.

[Antoninus]

Please go ahead now and post tons of evidence from before 100ad that demonstrates anyone believing or teaching this doctrine Claud.

What's the point? We already showed you the references in Sacred Scripture which the Church Fathers said referred to Purgatory and you summarily rejected it. But here's another epitaph for you:

"To my sweetest wife Lucifera who was all sweetness whereas she left her husband the greatest sorrow, and she has deserved that an epitaph should be inscribed to her, to the end that whoever of the brethren shall read it may ask God that her holy and innocent spirit may be received to God."

Left by an anonymous "heretic" grieving husband in the Roman catacombs and dated to the AD 200s.

[Elsie]

Ping to Elsie, keeper of the false-titles-of-mary-list.

At your service!

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