[rbmillerjr]

... not a conglomeration of people fractured inventing their own beliefs.

“Today’s Rome allows it’s members to believe whatever they want about apparitions.”

Incorrect. What you people misunderstand, it is no wonder you despise the Catholic Church lol.

Only the public Revelation of God’s Word has to be believed by Catholics. Private revelation or apparitions go through a long process of validation before they are approved by Christ’s Church. It can only be approved if it doesn’t contradict Public Divine Revelation.

...More importantly, even approved private revelation does not have to be believed by Church members.

[Elsie]

To: rbmillerjr

“Today’s Rome allows it’s members to believe whatever they want about apparitions.”

Incorrect. What you people misunderstand, it is no wonder you despise the Catholic Church lol.

Oh??

Let's just see if YOU know what YOU are talking about!

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According to the doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church, the era of public revelation ended with the death of the last living Apostle. A Marian apparition, if deemed genuine by Church authority, is treated as private revelation that may emphasize some facet of the received public revelation for a specific purpose, but it can never add anything new to the deposit of faith. The Church may pronounce an apparition as worthy of belief, but belief is never required by divine faith.^[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_apparition

[Elsie]

...it is no wonder you despise the Catholic Church...

"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours."

--Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)

[Elsie]

... but it can never add anything new to the deposit of faith.

Dang!

There go them 15 promises!!!

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‘We have recourse to your protection, holy Mother of God!'  Despise not our petitions in our necessities”. 

 

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20000626_message-fatima_en.html

Public Revelation and private revelations – their theological status   

Before attempting an interpretation, the main lines of which can be found in the statement read by Cardinal Sodano on 13 May of this year at the end of the Mass celebrated by the Holy Father in Fatima, there is a need for some basic clarification of the way in which, according to Church teaching, phenomena such as Fatima are to be understood within the life of faith. The teaching of the Church distinguishes between “public Revelation” and “private revelations”. The two realities differ not only in degree but also in essence. The term “public Revelation” refers to the revealing action of God directed to humanity as a whole and which finds its literary expression in the two parts of the Bible: the Old and New Testaments. It is called “Revelation” because in it God gradually made himself known to men, to the point of becoming man himself, in order to draw to himself the whole world and unite it with himself through his Incarnate Son, Jesus Christ. It is not a matter therefore of intellectual communication, but of a life-giving process in which God comes to meet man. At the same time this process naturally produces data pertaining to the mind and to the understanding of the mystery of God. It is a process which involves man in his entirety and therefore reason as well, but not reason alone. Because God is one, history, which he shares with humanity, is also one. It is valid for all time, and it has reached its fulfilment in the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. In Christ, God has said everything, that is, he has revealed himself completely, and therefore Revelation came to an end with the fulfilment of the mystery of Christ as enunciated in the New Testament. To explain the finality and completeness of Revelation, the Catechism of the Catholic Church quotes a text of Saint John of the Cross: “In giving us his Son, his only Word (for he possesses no other), he spoke everything to us at once in this sole Word—and he has no more to say... because what he spoke before to the prophets in parts, he has now spoken all at once by giving us the All Who is His Son. Any person questioning God or desiring some vision or revelation would be guilty not only of foolish behaviour but also of offending him, by not fixing his eyes entirely upon Christ and by living with the desire for some other novelty” (No. 65; Saint John of the Cross,The Ascent of Mount Carmel, II, 22).   

[Elsie]

 

(Every Rosary increases Mary's power to crush the head of the Serpent and to destroy his evil power in the world.)

http://www.rosary-center.org/fatima.htm

"Jesus wishes to establish devotion to my Immaculate Heart in the world. I promise salvation to those who embrace it." (June 13, 1917)  REALLY???