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To: MHGinTN
Here's some wisdom for you:

There are four narrations of the institution of the Eucharist: 
Keep in mind that Paul was not one of the original Apostles and wrote his letter to the Corinthians about eight years after the Gospel of Mathew was written.

- Matt. 26:26‑28-
Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, “Take, eat; this is my body.” And he took a chalice, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, “Drink of it, all of you; for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.”

- Mark 14:22‑24-
And as they were eating, he took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to them, and said, “Take; this is my body.” And he took a chalice, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, and they all drank of it. And he said to them. “This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many.”


- Luke 22: 19-20-
And he took bread, and when he had given thanks he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” And likewise the chalice after supper, saying, “This chalice which is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.”


- I Corinthians 11: 23‑25-
For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, “This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way also the chalice, after supper, saying, “This chalice is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the chalice, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.

Paul continues, after recapitulating the Last Supper, with words of strong admonition regarding our understanding of the significance of what we are doing by participating in the Eucharist:

1 Corinthians 11: 26‑30-
For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

This is also intended quite literally. For how can one be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord by engaging in merely a symbolic act. Whatever Christ promised; that He faithfully gave. Clearly in the literal sense these words demonstrate the Real Presence. Taken in their proper and literal sense, the words are so clear, that no clearer words can be found for explaining the Catholic dogma; simultaneously, the metaphorical sense is obscure. Therefore, the literal sense must be preferred.

See also my post #143

144 posted on 05/27/2019 6:10:42 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: G Larry
IF you knew the Risen Lord Jesus you would be able to understand the passages you posted, but understand them spiritually instead of only carnally. Your chosen religion of catholicism feeds you only the continuously victimized Jesus on the cross. But He Is Risen and constructing a Body of Christ soon to be departing planet Earth.

Can you, for instance, tell us the meaning of The Body of Christ, discerning the human flesh and blood curses from Genesis and Leviticus as real even into the first Ekklesia Council of the Apostles as related in Acts 15? The distinction between the spiritual Body and the physical Body escapes the carnal mind, just as you have illustrated for us. So, no, you haven't offered to us wisdom, only confusion and defense of a pagan inveigling into Christianity via the Rome Catholic cult. You have quoted the Word of God but without wisdom just an org spin meant to substantiate the false use of the Remembrance Jesus established BEFORE He sealed the New Covenant with His blood at the Cross.... No soup for you!

145 posted on 05/27/2019 7:10:29 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: G Larry; MHGinTN
Taken in their proper and literal sense, the words are so clear, that no clearer words can be found for explaining the Catholic dogma; simultaneously, the metaphorical sense is obscure. Therefore, the literal sense must be preferred.

DO THIS IN REMEMBRANCE OF ME.

Pretty clear what the Lord's Supper, not the Eucharist, is all about.

It is not a means of salvation, but a result of salvation.

So Larry, you believe John 6 to be understood literally when He said to unbelieving Jews to eat/drink His flesh and blood.

Do you get hungry or thirsty?

Should be a simple yes or no answer.

149 posted on 05/28/2019 10:48:32 AM PDT by ealgeone
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