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On The Sinful Census Conducted by King David
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 07-11-19 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 07/11/2019 8:00:15 AM PDT by Salvation

Posted on July 10, 2019July 10, 2019 by Msgr. Charles Pope

On The Sinful Census Conducted by King David

In the Office of Readings this week we read about a census conducted by King David that caused great harm (2 Samuel 24). Joab, David’s general, strongly cautioned him not to take the census, but David insisted. When the census had been completed, the prophet Gad informed David that God was angry and intended to punish him and all Israel. God offered David his choice of punishments: a three-year famine, three months of military fighting from Israel’s enemies, or three days of pestilence. David chose the pestilence, figuring that it was better to be in God’s hands than those of an enemy. About 70,000 people died during those three days.

This raises two central questions:

What is wrong with a census?

Why was all Israel punished for something David did?

What is wrong with a census?

The first answer can be found by focusing David’s lack of trust. God had called David to trust in Him—not in mankind, not in numbers. We tend to rely too heavily on numbers, thinking that something is good, or right, or successful if a lot of people support it. Of this tendency we must be very careful. Is our power or rectitude rooted in numbers, in popularity, in profit, or in God? In calling for a count of his people, David seems to be seeking confidence in numbers rather than in God; this is a sin.

David may also be guilty of pride. It could well be that he was proud that he had amassed such a large number of people in reuniting Israel and Judah and in conquering the Philistines, the Hittites, and others. Taking a census was perhaps a way of patting himself on the back, of making a name for himself. The numbers are quite impressive—so impressive that we moderns doubt them: 800,000 men fit for military service in Israel and 500,000 in Judah. If women, children, and those men too old or frail for service had been included, the number would probably have been close to 5 million. (These figures seem so high that they are a source of great debate among biblical scholars about biblical enumeration.) Suffice it to say that David ruled over a populous nation. His taking of a census likely indicates that he was proud of his accomplishments and wanted it acknowledged by his contemporaries and recorded in the annals of history: David, king of multitudes!

Others point out the sinfulness of counting God’s people. These are not David’s people to count; they are God’s. Because counting hints at accomplishment and control, David sins in trying to know a number that is none of his business. This is a number that is for God alone to know, for He numbers His people and calls them by name (cf Gen 15:15).

Finally, the results of a census can be used sinfully. Governments can and sometimes have used the information to oppress the people. The census David commissioned provided him with the number of men “fit for military service.” In the ancient world, a census was often taken to facilitate a military draft. It was also typically used as a basis for exacting taxes. Finally, kings used it to measure their power and to manipulate and coerce based on that power.

Even in our own time as we know, the taking of the official U.S. census every ten years is often surrounded by power struggles, as the results can lead to shifts in electoral boundaries, increases or decreases in congressional representation, changes in tax policy, shifting of spending priorities, and the pitting of different ethnic and racial groups against one another. A lot of trouble can be tied back to the results of the census; numbers can be powerful. Those that have “the numbers” get seats at the table while those who do not have to wait outside.

Note: I am not taking a side on the citizenship question that is currently being debated in the U.S. The point I am making here is much broader (and older) than the current disagreement.

In amassing numbers, David increases his power and his ability to manipulate the people in sinful or unjust ways.

Exactly where David’s sin lay—a lack of trust, pride, acting as if they were his people rather than God’s, amassing power, or in some combination of all these things—is not made clear in the passage. God is clear, though, in letting David know that he has sinned and seriously so.

Why was Israel punished for something David did?

This question is much more difficult to answer than was the first one. First, we ought to admit that there are some mysterious aspects and we may not be able to know the answer fully. All we can do is to offer some speculation.

The most common answer emphasizes that Israel was not sinless in the matter. The census story begins as follows: The Lord’s anger against Israel flared again and incited David … to number Israel and Judah. For some undisclosed reason, God was angry with the whole nation and therefore permitted David to fall into this sin. Perhaps the result of a census was also a point of national pride, with the people thinking, “Look how big, prosperous, and powerful we have become!” This is mere speculation, but the point is that according to the text, Israel had angered the Lord.

It is important to note that modern Western notion of individualism is not a biblical one. We tend to think that what we do is our business and what others do is theirs, and thus we are outraged at the idea that many would suffer for the sins of one. In the biblical worldview, though, we are all interconnected: There should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. If one member suffers, every member suffers; if one member is honored, every member rejoices. Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a member of it (1 Cor 12:25-27). Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. once said, “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” This is the biblical vision.

The decisions we make affect the people around us, whether for better or for worse. Even what we call “private” sins set loose evil, reduce goodness, and increase the likelihood of future and more public sins. We are our brother’s keeper and what we do or fail to do affects others.

To those who would say that God is not being “fair” in punishing Israel for what David did, there must be this strong advice: Be very careful before you ask God to be fair. If God were fair, we would all be in Hell right now. Rather, we should seek His mercy.

God knows how to shepherd us rightly. There are times when tough measures are needed. We do not know the precise nature of Israel’s sin, but God’s anger at Israel is His passion to set things right. He is getting us ready for the “Great Day.”


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
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1 posted on 07/11/2019 8:00:15 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: Salvation

I tried to re-size the photo, but could not.


2 posted on 07/11/2019 8:00:50 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Monsignor Pope Ping!


3 posted on 07/11/2019 8:02:41 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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5. Sex?

Occasionally................


4 posted on 07/11/2019 8:03:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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It's interesting that God once commanded the Israelites to take a census. That's what the Book of Numbers is about.

But at other times, He didn't want them to.

To count or not to count. That is the question.

5 posted on 07/11/2019 8:09:42 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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6 posted on 07/11/2019 8:13:04 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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Thank you.


7 posted on 07/11/2019 8:16:53 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Fiddlstix; Salvation

But God does hold us aCOUNTable for our sins. (typed with humor)


8 posted on 07/11/2019 8:21:35 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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In Exodus 30:11-16, God is explaining to Moses The Census tax. Exodus is about redemption. What God is saying is every person must be redeemed, by blood or by silver. Blood and silver are the same in Scripture. The Tabernacle was completely built on silver sockets and none of the Tabernacle was allowed to touch the ground. The slaves of Egypt were redeemed by the blood of the Egyptians. Anytime a person is redeemed, there must be bloodshed. Jesus shed blood for all of us once and for all.

In Spiritual fashion, in order for us to be redeemed, we must kill the flesh carnal man.

The census was taken several times by God's order. We know the number of fighting age men (all numbers in the Bible are men from 20-50, as women and children along with the sick and disable are not counted), and they are enumerated several places in the book of Numbers. David decided to count these men on his own without God's OK. To God, it looked as though David thought these men were "his men" to count. God had redeemed Israel and they belonged to God. When God found out that David was counting God's army, there would be a price to pay. David was told he could chooses a penalty for 3 days, for 3 months, or 7 years. He chose the 3 days of plague.

Israel belongs to God. Be careful how you treat Israel. That goes for all people. If you look at the leaders that want to trade land for peace, they all died a horrible death.

9 posted on 07/11/2019 8:24:09 AM PDT by chuckles
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Interesting shot of the 1890 census form. Completely different from 1880 and 1900.


10 posted on 07/11/2019 8:38:08 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (I trust President Trump.)
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To: Salvation
Re-sized graphic:


11 posted on 07/11/2019 8:44:59 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It is better to be slapped with the Truth than to be kissed with a Lie.")
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To: Salvation
You only need to add a height parameter within the IMG SRC coding. Images will scale themselves accordingly. I used 500. The trick for getting the coding below to display as text is to substitute & l t ; for the <, and & g t ; for the >.

(Just remove the spaces that I put in my explanation. Yipes this is like funhouse mirrors.)

The point is that

<IMG SRC="http://blog.adw.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/1890_U.S._Census_form2-2000x1200.jpg" height="500">

begets:


12 posted on 07/11/2019 8:51:23 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word.)
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You took out a lot of spaces. I tried using a width parameter and came up with nothing. (But I didn’t remove spaces — usually they don’t matter.)


13 posted on 07/11/2019 9:01:45 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Regarding the census, it was routed through the half shekel weight of silver (or the coin later on) as a gift and for the atonement of souls and the upkeep of the Tabernacle, Temple. Age 20 on up. Exodus 30:11...

Age 20 was the age of pursuit [of a livelihood]. See Pirkei Avot 5:22.

How did that soul donating that half shekel for atonement of his soul obtain his offering for which he was included in the congregation of Israel? It was more than a simple head count.

Not a good plan to support the Temple and give to God by using ill-gotten gains. The process was important.

As far as why David circumvented the procedure it is not recorded. Perhaps the numbers of men mustering for army duty didn't match what he perceived it should have been for the population, and he became livid about slackers. That's just a thought, not an interpretation. If he believed that the men weren't showing up with their half shekels, it would explain why he would come up with a census plan outside of the Temple offering system.

In any case, we do know that

1 Kings 15

1 Now in the eighteenth year of king Jeroboam the son of Nebat reigned Abijam over Judah.
2 Three years reigned he in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Maachah, the daughter of Abishalom.
3 And he walked in all the sins of his father, which he had done before him: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as the heart of David his father.
4 Nevertheless for David's sake did the LORD his God give him a lamp in Jerusalem, to set up his son after him, and to establish Jerusalem:
5 Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite.

Ergo, this census fail didn't make a dent in the big scheme of things. David knew that when Gad (hmmm, I see a couple of puns, on God and on troops) gave him the options for punishment, he should select the one coming directly from the Lord, because...

1 Chronicles 21

13 And David said unto Gad, I am in a great strait: let me fall now into the hand of the LORD; for very great are his mercies: but let me not fall into the hand of man.
14 So the LORD sent pestilence upon Israel: and there fell of Israel seventy thousand men.

70,000 down was a much better outcome than if his enemies had been given three month's free reign with the sword.

That's saying a lot about the hand of man. None of it good.

In a weird kind of way, the more slackers, the better. God had His system.

14 posted on 07/11/2019 9:35:51 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word.)
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I meant the spaces in my explanation: when I typed & lt ; and & gt ;. Those are the display codes (minus the spaces in between) for the < and > in a code string.

If you copy/paste the image coding *exactly how it appears in my post* and then hit preview, you will get the size image that appeared in my post.

Change the height number to 600, 700, or whatever, and you can get the result you want for readability or whatever. Sure, you can alternatively use width="x".

When I come across a large image too big to post, but I need the text to remain readable, I'll play around with that height number until I get the proper compromise.

15 posted on 07/11/2019 9:48:16 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word.)
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To: Ezekiel

Thanks.


16 posted on 07/11/2019 9:57:52 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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It’s unfortunately confusing. To get that image code string to display as text (instead of an image), I had to type in < and > differently, using those other symbols.

Of course, without adding the spaces to break it up, my explanation would have displayed as < and >.

Need Tylenol yet? lol.


17 posted on 07/11/2019 10:12:39 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word.)
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So it is okay for God to order a cenius but not humans?


18 posted on 07/11/2019 12:08:13 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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Was it not the taking of a cenius that became the basis for the OT Book Numbers.


19 posted on 07/11/2019 12:10:34 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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Correction: ?


20 posted on 07/11/2019 12:11:05 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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