Posted on 07/19/2019 8:50:12 PM PDT by Morgana
A rabbi who counseled pregnant women and helped them get abortions explained why he supported abortion:
“It’s not whether the fetus is alive. The question is, in Jewish law, as it is concerning Arabs who want to kill Jews. The Talmud says if a person is coming to kill you, get up earlier and kill him first. There is the concept of the chaser and that chasee, the person who is coming to harm you and the person who is going to be harmed… The fetus is endangering the life of the mother. Until the fetus’s head emerges intact, or the body emerges, the fetus is coming to kill the mother. You can kill it at any stage to save the life of the mother. The question in Jewish law is what constitutes threatening the life of the mother. I believe emotional health is threatening the life.”
He was a Conservative Rabbi who worked with the Clergy Consultation Service.
Doris Andrea Dirks, Patricia A Relf To Offer Compassion: A History of the Clergy Consultation Service on Abortion (Madison, Wisconsin: University Of Wisconsin Press, 2017) 109 – 110
This doofus is a failed product of WesternCiv.
“To save the mother’s life” is different than what this guy sounds like. This fellow sounds pretty far out of bounds
That’s perverse.
He was correct up to the part where he expanded the threat to the mother’s life to ‘everything’ !
They are supposed to try to save both lives.
Ok rabbi, since women are experts at emotional violence (and physical violence on those they can get away with it on), and you claim that emotional violence threatens life, and the Talmud says if you know someone is coming to kill you, you can go and kill them first, I guess that gives husbands license to kill their wives first.
THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME RATIONALE THIS JACKHOLE RABBI USED TO PERMIT WOMEN TO MURDER THEIR UNBORN BABIES.
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What a sick, twisted, macabre way of looking at an innocent little baby.
I literally cannot understand his mentality...
In the past, women often had narrow pelvic outlets due to ricketts.
The baby would simply not fit through the birth canal, so doctors would collapse the child’s skull to deliver the infant (which often was dead from the stress of prolonged labor) to save the mother’s life.
This was allowed in Jewish law.
Catholicism did not allow this if the child was still alive, so often that meant letting the mother die in labor then do a Caesarian section.
There are a few reports of surgery done while mom was still alive, but usually the surgery killed the mother.
Since Caesarian sections are now safe, This has nothing to do with most modern abortions, where only 1 percent are done to save the mother’s life, and maybe another 2 or 3 percent for major health problems in the mother, or severe malformations in the baby.
So if your boss threatens your emotional health by giving you a poor yearly review, according to this guy’s argument, you have a right to kill him.
Get help.
Rabid Rabbi.
Family tradition.
How is killing a baby in the womb any different than Nazism? How is Planned Parenthood any different than Dachau or Auschwitz?
“A rabbi” and “He was a conservative rabbi” -— nowhere is he named, nor is a source for the quotation given.
Use your head! don’t try to twist traditional teachings!
Totally against Jewish law. Some ‘rabbi’ this guy is.
What kind of convoluted thinking is that? Wow,what an idiot .
The Conservative Movement rabbi does not recognize the authority of either Biblical Law or Rabbinic Law. Now all of a sudden he’s deciding public policy issues for non-Jews based on his Lefty liberal imaginings of the Talmud? He is wicked, and will bring disaster to American Jews.
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