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The Catholic Case for Communism (projectile vomit)
America the Jesuit Review ^ | 07-23-2019 | Dean Dettloff

Posted on 07/23/2019 4:57:54 PM PDT by NRx

“It is when the Communists are good that they are dangerous.”

That is how Dorothy Day begins an article in America, published just before the launch of the Catholic Worker on May Day in 1933. In contrast to the reactions of many Catholics of the time, Day painted a sympathetic, if critical view of the communists she encountered in Depression-era New York City. Her deep personalism allowed her to see the human stories through the ideological struggle; and yet she concluded that Catholicism and communism were not only incompatible, but mutual threats. A whole Cold War has passed since her reflection, and a few clarifying notes are now worthwhile.

Communists are attracted to communism by their goodness, Day argued, that unerasable quality of the good that can be found within and outside the church alike, woven into our very nature. It might have been an easier thing to say back in 1933, when American communists were well known to the general public for putting their lives on the line to support striking workers, but it was also the kind of thing that could land you in a lot of trouble, not least in the Catholic Church.

By affirming the goodness that drives so many communists then and now, Day aimed to soften the perceptions of Catholics who were more comfortable with villainous caricatures of the communists of their era than with more challenging depictions of them as laborers for peace and economic justice. Most people who join communist parties and movements, Day rightly noted, are motivated not by some deep hatred toward God or frothing anti-theism, but by an aspiration for a world liberated from a political economy that demands vast exploitation of the many for the comfort of a few.

(Excerpt) Read more at americamagazine.org ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholic; communism; deandettloff
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How long are orthodox Catholics going to put up with this crap? I am thinking it's time for the pitchforks and torches. I don't want to sound holier than thou because God knows we have our own problems. But rampant heresy at every (and I do mean every) level of the Church is not one of them. For all our problems we Eastern Orthodox have a long and glorious history of shouting "heresy!" at one another and breaking communion. Sometimes the reasons may look silly, but then I look at what's going on across the Tiber, and I am reminded that there are worse things than schism.
1 posted on 07/23/2019 4:57:54 PM PDT by NRx
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To: NRx

Consider the source. What else would you expect?


2 posted on 07/23/2019 4:59:00 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Fact: Dogs can extract more info from smelling a pile of $h!t than humans can from viewing CNN)
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To: NRx; SaveFerris
Maybe they are just reading the personals.


3 posted on 07/23/2019 5:10:05 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: NRx

Ahh yes, the Jesuits again

Time again to suppress them.


4 posted on 07/23/2019 5:14:03 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: NRx

I’m sure the Catholic Poles would have a thing or two to say about the Commies.


5 posted on 07/23/2019 5:28:28 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe. -Luke 11:21)
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To: NRx

I can understand how, maybe a hundred years ago, some idealistic and high-minded individuals might have embraced Communism. It was a rough world (it still is) and Communism seemed a way out. It hadn’t been tried, though. Now it has been tried. And now, since it has been tried, and after Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, the Kims, and all the other horrid tyrannies Communism has produced, after the mountains of murdered corpses, after the abject failure of Communist “ideals” in every way, I have to say that anyone who embraces Communism has some serious intellectual, moral, and maybe even mental issues — even if he happens to wear a clerical collar and to have an S.J. after his name. (Maybe the latter isn’t a surprise.)

This article is odd coming from a member of a church whose sainted Pope John Paul II had a role in pulling the whole mess down in Europe.


6 posted on 07/23/2019 5:34:57 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.)
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To: NRx

Well, this guy’s idea of history is to project nobleness , where none exists

Little Black Book of Communism
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism


7 posted on 07/23/2019 5:39:01 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: NRx; Al Hitan; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; Hieronymus; irishjuggler; Jaded; ...
Francisjesuits Ping

Francis: "Communists Stole Our Flag!"

8 posted on 07/23/2019 6:06:21 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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Pope says communists are closet Christians
9 posted on 07/23/2019 6:11:37 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: NRx
Here's the author: "Dean Dettloff is a doctoral candidate at the Institute for Christian Studies, where he researches the intersections of media, religion, and politics. Currently, his academic work explores the ambiguity within Christianity as a world historical force, using media theory to investigate Christian technologies of domination and liberation. He also writes as a journalist, covering Canadian social issues and the Christian left, and co-hosts The Magnificast, a podcast about Christianity and leftist politics.": Dean Dettloff
10 posted on 07/23/2019 7:15:45 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: NRx

Catholicism is against state ownership of property and other govt atrocities. See the encyclical “ Rerum novarum” of 1891, by Pope Leo XIII.


11 posted on 07/23/2019 7:31:24 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: NRx

Oh gosh, this makes about the same sense as “the Communist Case for Christianity” ...or

“The Ohio State Case for the Michigan Wolverines” or
“The United Airlines Case for Riding Amtrack” or
“The Vegetarian Case for Eating Beef Liver.”

Why are academics so often idiots?


12 posted on 07/23/2019 7:33:17 PM PDT by cookcounty (Susan Rice: G Gordon Liddy times 10.)
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To: ReaganGeneration2
“against state ownership of property”
“for private ownership of property”
13 posted on 07/23/2019 7:34:45 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: NRx

Bump


14 posted on 07/23/2019 7:38:33 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Fedora

The author is “investigating Christian technologies of domination....”

And he’s planning to get a PhD out of this!!

Sheeesh! Does this mean the Marxists are now taking over the STEM wing of the universities too?


15 posted on 07/23/2019 7:41:53 PM PDT by cookcounty (Susan Rice: G Gordon Liddy times 10.)
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To: PGR88

....Or rather do serious house cleaning.


16 posted on 07/23/2019 11:27:59 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: ReaganGeneration2

Until a certain Pope Francis came along.


17 posted on 07/23/2019 11:30:22 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Dogbert41

Amen. This Catholic of part Polish heritage thanks you.


18 posted on 07/23/2019 11:32:20 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: NRx
The Catholic case for Nero
19 posted on 07/24/2019 8:21:47 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Dogbert41

I think you’re right!


20 posted on 07/24/2019 9:40:13 AM PDT by allwrong57
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