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To: dartuser

Thank you for your interest in the ministry of deliverance, that is, the casting out of demons/devils/evil spirits by the Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God.

Forgive me, please, for having neglected a definitive verse.

Mark 16: 17 -

“14 ¶ Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.”

As you have indicated, you are not a New Testament believer, and so not a Christian, a believer in the Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

27 But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it unto the dogs. 28 And she answered and said unto him, Yes, Lord: yet the dogs under the table eat of the children’s crumbs. 29 And he said unto her, For this saying go thy way; the devil is gone out of thy daughter.

According to this verse, deliverance is “bread for the children”, not for unbelievers.

It is however, evident that you need this ministry urgently. God bless you.


31 posted on 08/03/2019 5:07:25 PM PDT by Norski
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To: Norski
As you have indicated, you are not a New Testament believer, and so not a Christian, a believer in the Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

You have misunderstood ... I AM a NT believer ... I asked you to provide Biblical evidence (esp. from the epistles as they are instructions to the church) about casting out demons from NT believers. The passages you have cited from the gospels and Acts do not involve the casting out of demons from a NT believer and I have indicated that with a simple "Not a NT believer" ... not applying to myself, but the passage you cited.

Like I said, you cannot produce a command in the epistles that indicate casting demons out of NT believers is prescriptive. You only extrapolate incorrectly those episodes in the narrative portions of scripture that involve OT people without the indwelling Holy Spirit (which is THE distinctive of a NT believer).

Your interpretation of Mark 16 has several problems.

First, there is a known textual variant in vs. 9-20. Verse 9-20 are not in the earliest manuscripts. I personally believe Mark ends too abruptly at vs 8 and 9-20 IS part of the original, but there are scholars more fluent in this study than me, so I am not dogmatic about it being included. However, since the best scholars in the world are unsure, we should at least NOT develop doctrine based on those verses.

Second, the text itself explains that those signs were spoken to the apostles (vs. 14) ... and were fulfilled by the apostles (vs. 20). We have nothing to do with it ...

33 posted on 08/04/2019 2:25:18 AM PDT by dartuser
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