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Swiss bishop: Abu Dhabi declaration signed by pope, imam, eclipses Jesus as mediator, savior
LifeSite News ^ | Spetember 6, 2019 | Maike Hickson

Posted on 09/07/2019 2:11:08 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: ebb tide
... the Abu Dhabi Declaration signed by Pope Francis and a Muslim leader earlier this year, which among other things, states that the “diversity of religions” is “willed by God.”

I think they are confused by the Tower of Babel:

diversity of language.

61 posted on 09/08/2019 4:40:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
The NT sure has a LOT of things to say about certain 'teachings' that do NOT conform to the GOSPEL that was once delivered to the saints.


Jude 1:3

62 posted on 09/08/2019 4:42:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
I personally therefore do not believe in its success – also because the indispensable help of the Sacraments,
of God's justifying Grace in the Faith, and of the mediation of the Virgin Mary – who is highly cherished in Islam – is simply missing.”
 
 
How can anyone who stress these, be against anything else not found in the bible?

63 posted on 09/08/2019 4:44:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
When we do not profess Jesus Christ, the saying of Léon Bloy comes to mind:
 
"Anyone who does not pray to the Lord prays to the devil."
 
When we do not profess Jesus Christ, we profess the worldliness of the devil, a demonic worldliness.
 
 
I couldn't have pointed it out any better.

64 posted on 09/08/2019 4:46:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: semaj
The Pope is ant-Christ.

Well; it could be worse...

Or maybe just different.



65 posted on 09/08/2019 4:50:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

It’s all Greek to me.


66 posted on 09/08/2019 4:52:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Alas Babylon!
...No man cometh to the Father, but by me.” and my Mom; who leads them to me.
67 posted on 09/08/2019 4:53:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Alas Babylon!
My priest knows my sentiments and does not rebuke me.

He might be a secret PROT; too!

Or else the parish needs your tithe.

68 posted on 09/08/2019 4:54:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Alas Babylon!

;^)


69 posted on 09/08/2019 4:55:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Your bottom line is RIGHT!

Even in LDS and JW areas.


70 posted on 09/08/2019 4:56:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gumdrop
The RC church had about a 30-40 year gap in reestablishing a good educational program to teach the kids the Bible, and Jesus Christ as the center of our Salvation, and the Second person in the Holy Trinity.

I'd bet the 'teachings' about Mary never slacked off.

But then; I'm a PROT: who really doesn't KNOW what has been going on inside the RCC.

71 posted on 09/08/2019 4:59:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ConservativeMind; fproy2222
I do not feel comfortable with the idea that Muslims are following the God we follow, despite some borrowed similarities.

Heck; I feel the same way about MormonISM.

72 posted on 09/08/2019 5:01:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ConservativeMind

remember the picture of popular pope JPIi kissing a koran? This heresy is not new with the current pope it goes back a while


73 posted on 09/08/2019 5:02:53 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: ebb tide
Your hypocrisy is sickening.

Oh?

In what way???


"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours."

--Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)

 

 

 "We are compelled in virtue of our faith to believe and maintain that there is only one holy Catholic Church, and that one is apostolic. This we firmly believe and profess without qualification. Outside this Church there is no salvation and no remission of sins, the Spouse in the Canticle proclaiming: 'One is my dove, my perfect one. One is she of her mother, the chosen of her that bore her' (Canticle of Canticles 6:8); which represents the one mystical body whose head is Christ, of Christ indeed, as God. And in this, 'one Lord, one faith, one baptism' (Ephesians 4:5). Certainly Noah had one ark at the time of the flood, prefiguring one Church which perfect to one cubit having one ruler and guide, namely Noah, outside of which we read all living things were destroyed… We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff."

--Pope Boniface VIII, Bull Unam sanctam (A.D. 1302)


Isn't the above STILL in effect?

74 posted on 09/08/2019 5:03:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
...rather than telling Catholics falsehoods about the True Faith?


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75 posted on 09/08/2019 5:04:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide

Not those who trust in man made scapulars to avoid the eternal fire. Those are not trusting in Christ for their salvation and as a result aren’t Christians.


76 posted on 09/08/2019 5:06:22 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide; daniel1212
Another fail, ebb.

VC II was purely a pastoral council and flawed at that. No new dogmas were defined.

And you are wrong....again.

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The numbers alone tell the tale. Of the fifteen official documents of the Second Vatican Council, three have the title “Constitution.” Two of these have the title “Dogmatic Constitution,” the one on the Church (Lumen Gentium) and the one on Divine Revelation (Dei Verbum). Then there were three “declarations”: one on Christian education (Gravissimum Educationis), one on the relationship of the Church to non-Christian religions (Nostra Aetate), and one on religious freedom (Dignitatis Humanae). Along with these, there were eight “decrees” on: (1) the mission activity of the Church, (2) the ministry and life of priests, (3) the apostolate of the laity, (4) the training of priests, (5) the renewal of religious life, (6) the pastoral office of bishop, (7) ecumenism, and (8) the Catholic churches of the Eastern Rite.

Notably, only two of these documents (out of fifteen) contain the word “pastoral” in their titles: The Pastoral Constitution on the Church in the Modern World (Gaudium et Spes) and the Decree Concerning the Pastoral Office of Bishops in the Church (Christus Dominus). And both of those are “doctrinal” through and through.

https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2014/07/19/a-pastoral-and-dogmatic-council/

Your hatred of Vatican 2 is blinding you.

But then again, you're already blind to the Truth as evidenced by that idol around your neck.

77 posted on 09/08/2019 5:36:38 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Mom MD
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330


78 posted on 09/08/2019 5:43:26 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

Thanks for finding the picture. Those who are up in arms now about the pope cozying up to islam do not know the official teaching of their church or its history. Even recent history with JPII. He may have been widely loved but the heresies with islam and his total devotion to Mary are no different than any of the others. Worse yet a lot of the homosexual scandals were rampant under his watch. Everything that the Roman Catholics complain about the current pope were true with his predecessors except the love of socialism/communism. I think that one is new with Francis.


79 posted on 09/08/2019 5:51:49 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

Francis is the full fruition of what’s been going on in Catholicism for decades, if not centuries.

He did not appear out of nowhere. The stage had been being set for a LONG time.


80 posted on 09/08/2019 5:57:58 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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