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Francis: “We Must Obey The United Nations”
Gloria TV ^ | September 11, 2019 | Gloria TV

Posted on 09/11/2019 3:06:01 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: ebb tide

Wisdom from the jawbone of an ass.


141 posted on 09/12/2019 12:39:40 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: nopardons
He’s just an anti-Catholic bigot.

Once again confirming the observation that it is usually, though not always, the Roman Catholic who is the first to resort to the personal attack and/or profanity when the argument goes against them....which is very often.

142 posted on 09/12/2019 12:39:48 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
Just face it, you're using false flags to make your arguments!

In the 14th and early 16th centuries the Popes had great powers over not just regular people, but also the kings of European nations! He was a higher "power", for all intents and purposes, than even kings were. THAT'S NO LONGER THE CASE!

And Jesus did NOT give such powers to any of his disciples!

And no,rejecting this INSANE/LEFTY/GLOBALIST Pope's diktats on GLOBALIST crap, doesn't mean that any Catholic is going against his or her religion/has to accept this garbage or be consigned to HELL.

143 posted on 09/12/2019 12:40:33 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: miss marmelstein
The history of it was about the failing fish industry in the Northern European nations. They begged the Pope for help and so BOOM, a new " dietary law" came about and the fish industry thrived! :-)

I too like veal; though I find veal goulash disgusting.

144 posted on 09/12/2019 12:44:21 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Do you like beef goulash? I have a recipe here from a friend’s mother who survived Auschwitz, moved to NJ, and opened up a fur store. In the 1990s, an activist set off a bomb outside the store destroying the livlihood of two survivors of Hitler. I doubt the bomber had a sense of irony. (Off topic, I know!)


145 posted on 09/12/2019 12:48:51 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: ealgeone; nopardons

the Roman Catholic who is the first to resort to the personal attack and/or profanity when the argument goes against them....which is very often.

142 posted on 9/12/2019, 2:39:48 PM by ealgeone

Your specious argument is not only specious, it’s dead incorrect as I’m sure you’re about to find out.


146 posted on 09/12/2019 12:53:03 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein; nopardons
I'll ask again....when were the two dogmatic statements retracted?

If so, it admits error in the papal claims to infallibility.

Nopardons is partially correct in his/her post.

In the 14th and early 16th centuries the Popes had great powers over not just regular people, but also the kings of European nations! He was a higher "power", for all intents and purposes, than even kings were. THAT'S NO LONGER THE CASE!

However, it was against this backdrop the two statements were made.

However, there is no exemption in the statements nor a time limitation in the statements.

So you're back to admitting the statements were issued in error or you just don't like them because they are still in force today.

147 posted on 09/12/2019 12:59:34 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: miss marmelstein
If you're going to quote me, please do so in context.

Once again confirming the observation that it is usually, though not always, the Roman Catholic who is the first to resort to the personal attack and/or profanity when the argument goes against them....which is very often.

148 posted on 09/12/2019 1:00:41 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: miss marmelstein
LOL...of course, I LOVE beef goulash!

There are about seven different kinds of goulash, which includes a soup...which is dreadful.

The joke in my family is that our recipes for goulash go back to Attila! And they almost do, I bet.

I'll gladly send you my recipe, though we NEVER measure anything, so when anyone asks for the recipe, I have to guess at them.

Was the person's mother Hungarian? I only ask because from the beginning of Hungarian immigration to America, many of them DID go into some version of the fur industry. I don'ty know why, only that this is a fact.

What a truly HORRIBLE story!

149 posted on 09/12/2019 1:02:55 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: miss marmelstein

BRAVA !!!!!!!!!


150 posted on 09/12/2019 1:03:34 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: ealgeone; miss marmelstein
It's a shame that you are so bereft of factual historical knowledge.

There have been many things said by Popes that no longer apply at all! The SUMPTUARY LAWS, for one; INDULGENCES for another. And if you want a full list of such things, go do your own scut work!

And now, bigot...you are hereby placed in Coventry.

151 posted on 09/12/2019 1:07:47 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: ealgeone

I quoted you exactly. If you don’t want to be quoted, don’t quote.


152 posted on 09/12/2019 1:09:12 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: nopardons

Yes, I’ll be happy to accept a recipe for beef goulash. I’ll make it as soon as the weather cools off if it ever does. My recipe from Mrs. Loewy says that the beef when cooked must be “rosy”. I always liked that description.

She was a Hungarian Jew.


153 posted on 09/12/2019 1:11:46 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein
"ROSY"? I've never heard that before!

My recipe calls for it to be cooked for THREE days, before you eat it; does her's ?

The folk tale that goes with goulash ( especially beef ), it that you can serve it to beggars the first day of cooking, your servants and neighbors the second day ( but yes, you could eat it then too ), and you and honored guests eat it the third day.

154 posted on 09/12/2019 1:19:47 PM PDT by nopardons
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That’s a great story and so true. Dishes like that do mellow and marinate over time and become very delicious. No, hers does not mention that. I took it down in longhand. Maybe I missed that! My baking is better than my cooking and I just told you what my baking is like.


155 posted on 09/12/2019 1:23:25 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein
I quoted you exactly. If you don’t want to be quoted, don’t quote.

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Easily proven wrong. Your exact post below:

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miss marmelsteinto ealgeone; nopardons

the Roman Catholic who is the first to resort to the personal attack and/or profanity when the argument goes against them....which is very often.

142 posted on 9/12/2019, 2:39:48 PM by ealgeone

— Your specious argument is not only specious, it’s dead incorrect as I’m sure you’re about to find out.

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*****

My full comment is below.

Once again confirming the observation that it is usually, though not always, the Roman Catholic who is the first to resort to the personal attack and/or profanity when the argument goes against them....which is very often.

156 posted on 09/12/2019 1:39:46 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: nopardons
It's a shame that you are so bereft of factual historical knowledge.

I'll ask yet again....when were the two dogmatic statements rescinded?

You will continue to offer no reply.

There have been many things said by Popes that no longer apply at all! The SUMPTUARY LAWS, for one; INDULGENCES for another. And if you want a full list of such things, go do your own scut work!

You sure about that on the Indulgences?

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The Council of Constance condemned among the errors of Wyclif the proposition: "It is foolish to believe in the indulgences granted by the pope and the bishops" (Sess. VIII, 4 May, 1415; see Denzinger-Bannwart, "Enchiridion", 622). In the Bull "Exsurge Domine", 15 June, 1520, Leo X condemned Luther's assertions that "Indulgences are pious frauds of the faithful"; and that "Indulgences do not avail those who really gain them for the remission of the penalty due to actual sin in the sight of God's justice" (Enchiridion, 75S, 759), The Council of Trent (Sess, XXV, 3-4, Dec., 1563) declared: "Since the power of granting indulgences has been given to the Church by Christ, and since the Church from the earliest times has made use of this Divinely given power, the holy synod teaches and ordains that the use of indulgences, as most salutary to Christians and as approved by the authority of the councils, shall be retained in the Church; and it further pronounces anathema against those who either declare that indulgences are useless or deny that the Church has the power to grant them (Enchridion, 989). It is therefore of faith (de fide)

•that the Church has received from Christ the power to grant indulgences, and

•that the use of indulgences is salutary for the faithful.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07783a.htm

And now, bigot...you are hereby placed in Coventry.

Continuing to prove my prior observation. Just think, nopardons…..your Roman Catholic attitude is on display for the whole world to see.

This is really all to easy.

157 posted on 09/12/2019 1:48:04 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: miss marmelstein
I should send you our recipe for what the family calls "THE SOUP"! That only takes two days to cook before eating; though it too gets better and better with each recooking.

Hmmmmm...maybe you missed the part of how long to cook the goulash. I don't know of ANYONE, of Hungarian descent/Hungarian who would eat beef goulash the first day. Ditto for "THE SOUP"! The thing is, you cook ALL of the fat out, this way ( you put these dishes in the icebox, so the that the fat rises and congeals, which you keep removing, so it's VERY healthy ), and also you should also serve it with pickles or Hungarian cucumber salad ( a form of pickles ), which is also a fat cutter.

LOL...saw that and replied; though I didn't make a comment re the cake. I haven't seen it, so not going to say if it was the way you claimed it was or not. ;^)

But I'm sure the cake itself was delicious!

158 posted on 09/12/2019 1:59:05 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: ealgeone; nopardons

Oooh, you’ve pinked me.

I dislike the specious argument you make here (and it’s often heard here) that it is Catholics who respond with insults. The situation is like this: I go into your house and insult your cooking, your decor, your children, spouse and dog and you respond “That’s not nice. That’s nasty and I think you are a jerk.” And then I say: “Oooh! You’re getting personal! You always start it!” When, in fact, it is I who have been insulting you all along.

It is a form of gaslighting but you are no Charles Boyer.


159 posted on 09/12/2019 2:30:02 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: nopardons

It was a Nigella Lawson cake. Tasted good but looked about as good as Nigella’s creations. (Which means it was pretty lopsided.)


160 posted on 09/12/2019 2:32:11 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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