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To: pastorbillrandles

So I accept Jesus, and then I can Do anything I want.?


3 posted on 09/20/2019 9:15:21 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: oldbill

Hi oldbill...read the article, I say nothing of the sort...All I am saying is that true , ongoing faith is what God requires. Doing sin is an act of unbelief... continuing in sin is unbelief as a lifestyle, at some point true faith is defected from by those who continue in sin...


4 posted on 09/20/2019 9:19:20 AM PDT by pastorbillrandles (ore and rebuild Jerusale)
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To: oldbill

Hi oldbill...read the article, I say nothing of the sort...All I am saying is that true , ongoing faith is what God requires. Doing sin is an act of unbelief... continuing in sin is unbelief as a lifestyle, at some point true faith is defected from by those who continue in sin...


5 posted on 09/20/2019 9:19:37 AM PDT by pastorbillrandles (ore and rebuild Jerusale)
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To: oldbill
"So I accept Jesus, and then I can Do anything I want.?"

No because believing means more than intellectual assent. Satan and his demons "believe" in Jesus to this extent - and shudder. "Belief" for salvation includes repentance. You can't just believe IN Christ but you must believe Christ - what he said and what he commanded. In the first sermon Christ gives in all the first three Gospels his first command is "repent".

8 posted on 09/20/2019 9:35:29 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: oldbill
So I accept Jesus, and then I can Do anything I want.?

Yes...Because what you will want to do is please God...

10 posted on 09/20/2019 9:45:59 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: oldbill

[[So I accept Jesus, and then I can Do anything I want.?]]

Technically yes- but just like anyone else- saved or unsaved- you WILL suffer the consequences of your actions- Backslidden Christians can fall into very serious sin, wind up with STD’s- wind up in prison the rest of their lives- or wind up being taken off the earth before they should have because of their sinful lifestyle choice-

Why would you want to risk that?

also- what was the person’s motivation for ‘Getting Saved’? To get a ‘free pass’ so they could continue in sin? Then their ‘salvation conversion’ should be called into question- Did they truly have a change of mind about how to be saved? It would seem not- (But only God can tell and the person making the choice)- it would seem their motivation was selfish in nature, and not one of true repentance (change of mind about how to be saved) - It would seem the person just added a ‘lucky charm’ to their collection rather than accepting Christ as Savior

God knows the heart- and another thing- the person that truly does become saved- then falls into sin- God will continually be working in their conscience to bring them into fellowship with Him- however, if the person refuses- then again, God may take them out early- OR they will suffer the consequences of their sinful life- which could be very severe consequences- again, why would a Christian want that for themselves?


12 posted on 09/20/2019 9:51:55 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: oldbill

read Romans chapter 6.


26 posted on 09/20/2019 10:16:44 AM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: oldbill
So I accept Jesus, and then I can Do anything I want.?

It requires a change of the heart, which is done by the Holy Spirit. At which point, you don't want to do "anything you want", and if you slip up, the conviction by the Holy Spirit will have a profound effect on you and you will desire to repent and be forgiven.
32 posted on 09/20/2019 10:27:47 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: oldbill; pastorbillrandles

“So I accept Jesus, and then I can Do anything I want.?”


That’s the first thought that crossed my mind.

Look, it is patently obvious that no single human being who ever has lived, or who ever will live, was or will be perfect. Not even imperfect to such a small degree that they would be granted salvation by those deeds alone. But the beliefs expressed in this article cannot be true, because they basically say that you have no responsibility. Though I cannot read God’s mind, I am very well aware that God created each and every one of us, and knows exactly what our capabilities are, what experiences we have gone through and what influences we have had during our lives. He tests us constantly, expecting that we will mess up on most occasions and, knowing what He does, he forgives us for most of our mistakes and shortcomings. He only asks that we continue to try to be better IN FACT (not just in mind or spirit).

Some things cannot be forgiven - like murder. Murder is a crime against BOTH God’s law and against the victims (yes, plural, even if only one person is actually murdered). God can (and often does) forgive people for some pretty bad acts, including murder. But He requires SINCERE belief - and the only certain demonstration of that sincerity is to change the bad behavior, whatever that might be. As for the victims, there are many: first, of course, is that actual murder victim - who is unable to forgive the act once he or she has been murdered. Then there are the family members (immediate and extended), friends of varying degrees, acquaintances, work colleagues, neighbors, etc. ALL of them are also victims - and it is doubtful that a murderer would be forgiven by all of them (possible, but very doubtful). But the unforgivable part is with the victim himself or herself. The murderer, even if they repent completely and turn to God, and do good works, will STILL have to pay a price for the great harm he/she has inflicted. Mere belief in God is not sufficient.


38 posted on 09/20/2019 10:40:33 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: oldbill

“So I accept Jesus, and then I can Do anything I want.?”

Sounds like one of those questions like, “Did Adam have a navel?” Meant to be some kind of *gotcha* question; not a real inquiry.

However, the answer is:

Yes, you CAN do anything you want. But you won’t. Your conversion will change the person you are. The closer you get to Him, the further you get from sin and its pull. The power to overcome sin grows stronger with your growth.

But if you do fall (and you WILL fall...constantly), you are still the righteousness of God. Jesus died 2,000 years ago, for All of the sins of mankind. This includes the ones you commit before your acceptance of Him as your Savior and the ones committed after that.

It’s called Grace. And it is unqualified for the believer. You become, via Jesus’ propitiation, sinless before God.

That’s amazing and hard for the natural man to understand. But that’s part of what makes it so wonderful.

As the hymn goes, “Amazing Grace”.


39 posted on 09/20/2019 10:41:28 AM PDT by Chasaway (Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: oldbill
As a dog returns to his vomit, so a fool repeats his folly.

So a dog that does this is no longer a dog?

43 posted on 09/20/2019 10:49:08 AM PDT by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: oldbill

“So I accept Jesus, and then I can Do anything I want.?”

Paul would answer your question with a “God forbid” Romans 6...Even though Christians are saved by grace that does not give the Christian a license to sin, no right “to do anything he wants”.

In Romans 6:16 Paul points out we each are serving either ‘sin unto death’ or ‘obedience unto righteousness’. If the Christian quits obeying God’s will he is serving sin unto death.

Since belief is obedience, that means if a Christian quits believing he has then turned from (apostate) from serving obedience unto righteousness to serving sin unto death. Charles Stanley is far from the truth on this matter and what his book says is extremely dangerous, spiritually deadly.


90 posted on 09/20/2019 4:53:45 PM PDT by Oneanddone
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To: oldbill

“I can Do anything I want.?
God forbid! Know ye not to whom you yield yourself servant to obey ye are his servant to whom you obey whether of sin unto death or obedience unto righteousness.


281 posted on 09/22/2019 2:03:19 PM PDT by Rock N Jones (1935)
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