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[Catholic Caucus] Francis to Favorite Journalist: "Jesus was not at all a God."
Rorate Caeli ^ | October 9, 2019 | New Catholic

Posted on 10/09/2019 3:17:19 PM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] Francis to Favorite Journalist: "Jesus was not at all a God."

First, the actual declarations, as reported by Francis' favorite journalist, Eugenio Scalfari, published in today's edition of La Repubblica (available online since yesterday):

"Those who, as it has happened many times with me, have had the luck of meeting him and speaking to him with the greatest cultural intimacy, know that pope Francis conceives Christ as Jesus of Nazareth, man, not God incarnate. Once incarnate, Jesus stops being a God and becomes a man until his death on the cross.

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"When I had the chance of discussing these sentences, pope Francis told me: 'They are the proven proof that Jesus of Nazareth, once having become a man, was, though a man of exceptional virtues, not at all a God.'"


(Main excerpts: the original page is behind a paywall)

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Now, obviously, as it has often happened with Francis' informal interviews with Eugenio Scalfari, some will try to deny the veracity of what Scalfari, a seasoned journalist, affirms. 

Let us just recall, for the record of events, that there is no reason to doubt its general accuracy. We are way past the time of doubting the general accuracy of the Scalfari quotes. 

Not now, that the papal interviews to Scalfari have been published on the Vatican website, that they have been occasionally published by the Vatican publishing house (LEV) itself - for instance, as part of the book (above).



TOPICS: Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: apostasy; francischism
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Let us just recall, for the record of events, that there is no reason to doubt its general accuracy. We are way past the time of doubting the general accuracy of the Scalfari quotes.

This explains why Francis refuses to bend a knee before the Blessed Sacrament and discounts the miracle of the loaves and fishes and says it was just a case of commmunal sharing.

1 posted on 10/09/2019 3:17:19 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; kalee; ...

Ping


2 posted on 10/09/2019 3:18:05 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

Is the Pope Catholic? Is no longer a joke I guess.


3 posted on 10/09/2019 3:28:27 PM PDT by SteveO87
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To: ebb tide

I long ago accepted that he’s a communist SJW. Now I don’t think he’s even a Christian. How did the College of Cardinals elect this destroyer of The Church?!


4 posted on 10/09/2019 3:31:21 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: ebb tide

I want to weep and vomit.


5 posted on 10/09/2019 3:33:06 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: ebb tide

Great. We have an atheist journalist (there’s two strikes, already) claiming that Frankie said something apostate.

I trust none of it.


6 posted on 10/09/2019 3:33:14 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: ebb tide; All
Heads up!

A related thread indicates that Vatican disagrees with author of referenced article.

Read past the headline and you’ll find the Vatican disavows the aged, atheist, interviewers account.

Corrections welcome.

7 posted on 10/09/2019 3:34:48 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: NorthMountain

Scalfari has been shooting the s—t with Francis since 2013. It’s always the same routine... Scalfari quotes Francis saying some outrageous thing. The Vatican points out that Scalfari doesn’t record anything or take notes, so take please take him with a grain of salt. And then a few months later Francis invites Scalfari over for another interview. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

Scalfari is either telling the truth or Francis couldn’t care less that Scalfari puts heretical/blasphemous/heterodox words into his mouth. Neither of those options is encouraging.


8 posted on 10/09/2019 3:39:01 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: ebb tide

This phony-baloney Pope makes me want to puke.


9 posted on 10/09/2019 3:40:13 PM PDT by Bullish (My tagline ran off with another man.)
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To: irishjuggler

If Frankie keeps on puking up stuff like this, it’s good in a back-handed way. IMO, he’s already shown himself to be a heretic and therefore NOT Pope … this stuff makes the heresy more obvious. Perhaps more people will begin to recognize that Frankie is an antipope.

IMHO.

IANACL.


11 posted on 10/09/2019 3:43:04 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: ebb tide

habemus idiot


12 posted on 10/09/2019 3:44:19 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (January 20, 2017, High Noon. The end of an error.)
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To: ebb tide

IF it is true that the “journalist” does not take notes nor record interviews with the Pope and continuously puts blasphemous words in the Popes mouth then, why does this Pope give repeated interviews with this person?

And, has been granting interviews with this “journalist” for years?


13 posted on 10/09/2019 3:48:58 PM PDT by ocrp1982 (Lurking since the late 90's. Recently retired. No tagline yet.)
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To: Amendment10

There is no disavowal. Just a distancing. Don’t be surprised when the interview will eventually be published on the Vatican website, just like otheer Scalfari interviews.

And why does Francis keeping granting interviews to this atheist journalist while refusing to meet with the dubia cardinals? Why can’t Bergoglio’s handlers control him in his follies?


14 posted on 10/09/2019 3:49:28 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: lurk; Religion Moderator

While I doubt that anyone on thread would disagree with anything that you say, please note that this is caucus.

Allow us to vomit in peace.


15 posted on 10/09/2019 4:03:12 PM PDT by Hieronymus ("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
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To: NorthMountain

Trust it.

This same journalist has repeatedly released these sort of quotes which the Vatican is forced to deny. Frankie responds by giving him a new interview and treats him warmly.

Frankie uses this outlet th o get his views out while maintaining implausible deniability. Only people in serious denial will believe Frankie’s denials. It’s obvious what the scam here is and who is running it.


16 posted on 10/09/2019 4:08:29 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: ebb tide

And you are “not at all a” pope.


17 posted on 10/09/2019 4:12:59 PM PDT by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Only people in serious denial will believe Frankie’s denials.

But Francis, himself, has never denied the content of Scalfari's interviews.

18 posted on 10/09/2019 4:15:41 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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Thanks for insight.


20 posted on 10/09/2019 4:36:42 PM PDT by Amendment10
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