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[Barf Alert] The Pope: not using or possessing nuclear arms will be added to the Catechism
Vatican News ^ | November 26, 2019 | Vatican News

Posted on 11/26/2019 6:27:09 PM PST by ebb tide

[Barf Alert] The Pope: not using or possessing nuclear arms will be added to the Catechism

"The use of nuclear weapons is immoral, which is why it must be added to the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Not only their use, but also possessing them: because an accident or the madness of some government leader, one person’s madness can destroy humanity.”

In addition to repeating this strong message pronounced at Hiroshima, Pope Francis responded to many questions posed to him by the journalists during the flight bringing them back to Rome from Japan.

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1 posted on 11/26/2019 6:27:09 PM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 11/26/2019 6:28:39 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

So when does the Vatican get rid of all their weapons?


3 posted on 11/26/2019 6:30:25 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: ebb tide

I am sure the Iranians and others muslimes will take the pope’s nuclear catechism real seriously.


4 posted on 11/26/2019 6:34:53 PM PST by cyberstoic (I)
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To: ebb tide

Is he going to talk to North Korea?


5 posted on 11/26/2019 6:34:55 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
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6 posted on 11/26/2019 6:39:52 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Inyo-Mono

So when can we expect Pope Marxist to preach this in Beijing and Islamabad and demand action?


7 posted on 11/26/2019 6:49:16 PM PST by Obadiah (Kill the deep state or lose the Republic.)
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To: ebb tide

I should be good. No one I know including myself has a nuke in my backyard, pocket, or garage. Just how does Francis think this mortal sin works?


8 posted on 11/26/2019 6:54:32 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: ebb tide
As hard as it may be to believe, these utterings aren't too far from those of prior Popes.

When the harm wrought by war is not comparable to that caused by tolerating injustice, we may be obliged to suffer injustice,” declared Pope Pius XII in his Address to the World Medical Association on October 19, 1953. In other words, Pius XII held that the human and natural damage wrought by a nuclear strike was out of proportion with any aggression whatsoever. Indeed, in response to the aforementioned nuclear bombings of Japanese civilians, Pius XII declared that “every act of war directed to the indiscriminate destruction of whole cities or vast inhabited areas is a crime against God and man.”

9 posted on 11/26/2019 6:58:01 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: ebb tide

The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki resulted in the saving of hundreds of thousands of lives and years of warfare, by paralyzing Japanese forces, setting German forces back on their heels by incapacitating their major ally and by buying time for America to manufacture the weaponry and recruit the men and women needed to save Europe and China and the South Seas from wholesale slaughter, Bolshivik style. Incidentally, it also brought a lot of Japanese to the Church, replacing emperor worship and upending the caste system. Allowing Japan, with America’s helping hand, to fast-track into the industrial age.

That said, the weapons being developed today are about 100 times more powerful. But in N Korea where emperor worship still exists, or Iran where mullah worship still exists, or China where party worship is the name of the game, catechism isn’t exactly relative. So who is the Pope preaching to exactly? Surely he’s not suggesting the nations that keep world peace disarm so the nations that don’t, destroy that peace? Or will we forever associate nuclear with Japan as if they were innocent victims of injustice?


10 posted on 11/26/2019 6:59:14 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: ebb tide

Not having a pope is the new Catholic. Nobody needs this commie puke. I am Catholic and I’m proud. And I have no pope. Our faith is based in Christ and it will survive this latest antichrist.


11 posted on 11/26/2019 6:59:46 PM PST by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.>>>)
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To: ebb tide

None of us are ever going into the confessional to say that we feel guilty about owning nuclear weapons. The only personal sin I can think of that the Pope has ever mentioned being concerned about was gossip. He really doesn’t care about the next life, about salvation of souls, much.


12 posted on 11/26/2019 7:01:30 PM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: CodeToad
Not "all their weapons." Just their Weapons of Mass Destruction.

That might include microphones anywhere within a 10-foot radius of the man formerly known as Jorge Bergoglio.

13 posted on 11/26/2019 7:06:09 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is. Yogi Berra)
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To: blueplum

This all amounts to nothing until the Pope persuades India and Pakistan to put their nuclear toys away. And as far as other wannabe nuclear powers, rogue regimes and terrorists who would like to acquire nukes, I don’t see them being receptive to the “why can’t we all just get along” approach, either. The US is not the problem on this. We haven’t used nukes on anybody since wwII. That’s a long track record of restraint.


14 posted on 11/26/2019 7:08:44 PM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: OpusatFR; ebb tide
It would, I suppose, forbid Catholics' participation in the nuclear chain of command... for strategic nuclear weapons.

Don't know if it would or should apply to tactical or theatre nukes.

I, myself, would argue that strategic nuclear weapons should be banned, and that it is "rave matter" --- a serious sin --- to cooperate in the planning or carrying out target=city military "acts directed at whole cities or extensive geographical areas, together with their population" ---to use the language of Gaudium et Spes 80.

Pretty straightforward. Smash military targets, smash them flat. But don't go out there to inflict aerial Auschwitz on the civilian population.

That's what I said to my firstborn, 30-year Captain Ben, USMC, who just two days ago got his "own" Harrier Jump Jet, a close-combat attack aircraft with his name painted on it.

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15 posted on 11/26/2019 7:20:01 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is. Yogi Berra)
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To: ebb tide

Can Catholics boycott donating any money to drive this turd from office?


16 posted on 11/26/2019 7:27:02 PM PST by LeonardFMason (Lou Dobbs)
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To: OpusatFR
TYPO: "rave matter" ="grave matter"

Morally, it = megabortion.

But what goes round, comes round. We've already Auschwitzed 60 million of our own children, with pretty explicit intentionality: moms ('n' dads, usually) wanted them dead.

"The fruit of abortion is nuclear war." - Mother Teresa of Calcutta

17 posted on 11/26/2019 7:27:11 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is. Yogi Berra)
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You are right, doodlebug. It is on absolutely the same page as every previous pope since 1945, and --- as you quoted --- #80 in Gaudium et Spes, which condemns abortion and infanticide in parallel, fully comparable terms.

And, dare I mention, God. He states about a dozen times in the OT that the shedding of innocent blood is an abomination. Abomination like sodomy. Abomination like child sacrifice. Like "the Abomination of Desolation."

See #15.

18 posted on 11/26/2019 7:35:05 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is. Yogi Berra)
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To: ebb tide

I very much doubt that there is anyone who has their own nuclear weapon


19 posted on 11/26/2019 7:52:17 PM PST by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!me tking public being de)
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To: OpusatFR

I lost mine in a boating accident.


20 posted on 11/26/2019 7:56:08 PM PST by Do_Tar (To my NSA handler: Just kidding.)
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