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Hating on Sheen
Church Militant ^ | December 5, 2019 | Michael Voris

Posted on 12/05/2019 1:32:16 PM PST by ebb tide

Hating on Sheen

The Church of Nice lashes out.

f you ever wanted to see just how "not nice" the Church of Nice can be, the case of it lashing out at Ven. Abp. Fulton Sheen is a prime example. 

Late Tuesday, news broke that the beatification of the famed preacher-bishop was suddenly stopped dead in its tracks because of "the request of a few members of the Bishop's Conference who have asked for further consideration." 

First, there is a great mystery surrounding the identity of the "bishops." Church Militant can report, from archdiocesan sources from Chicago, that Cdl. Blase Cupich is one of those bishops. Another one, according to our sources,  is — no surprise here — New York Cdl. Timothy Dolan, who practically made a career out of trying to prevent the canonization of Sheen, spending close to a million bucks of parishioners' money on high-priced lawyers to keep the body from being returned to Peoria.

Dolan was slammed by the New York courts and finally forced to hand over the body, but — in a totally tasteless move — he ordered that the body be handed over in the dead of the night. But sources close to the New York archdiocese tipped off Church Militant, and we were there to capture images of the transfer of Sheen's remains. Cupich is Pope Francis' right-hand man in the U.S. and nothing of major import in the U.S. Church happens without his stamp. Sheen was, of course, a champion of orthodoxy and empowering the laity to help "save the Church," to use his words — two things Cupich despises.

The order to halt the beatification process, just 18 days before it was supposed to happen, came from the Congregation for Saints in Rome.

Vatican sources tell Church Militant that the order to halt beatification — a beatification that had already been approved to go ahead — was done at the demand of the bishop of Rochester, New York, Salvatore Matano, who roped Dolan and Cupich into the plan to slam the brakes on it.

The prefect of that Roman Congregation is none other than Cdl. Angelo Becciu, a prelate deeply involved in the McCarrick scandal, who acted as a go-between for Pope Francis and the corrupt, homopredator former Cdl. McCarrick.

According to our sources close to Becciu, he decided to reverse his approval because Matano communicated to him that he is fearful Sheen will be named by the N.Y. State attorney general as a bishop who assigned a predator priest to a parish where the priest — Gerard Guli — abused some victims.

Sheen had been assigned as bishop of Rochester from 1966–1969. But this is where things go weird with the story. 

All of this was thoroughly investigated already by the Peoria diocese. 

Guli was contacted by investigators in charge of the Sheen case and he told them flat out that Sheen never assigned him to a parish once he returned to Rochester from West Virginia to take care of an eldery parent.

Make note of that: Guli, the priest in question, himself denies the veracity of the claim Sheen appointed him to anything. Sheen gave him no assignment, in fact.

Guli tells investigators it was Sheen's successor, Bp. Joseph Hogan, who put the molester priest back into circulation. Guli was eventually laicized.

What's strange about all this is this: Matano knows all this info. The Sheen cause has been vetted left and right, up and down, for years. The Congregation of Saints also already knew all this, and set a date for the beatification to move forward.

Then Matano apparently lost his mind, roped in Cupich and Dolan, and with their influence, everything was stopped.

What's very telling here is that we cannot find any case of any Pope reversing his approval for a scheduled beatification because he is waiting on civil authorities to conclude their investigations.

But what's also worth noting is how much the establishment Catholic media jumped on the story and used it as an opportunity to slam Sheen, insinuating that he was gay and covered up a sexual assault by a priest.

It's almost as if there was a concerted effort on the part of corrupt cardinals, who put the word out to their sycophant media, to attack.

Image Original CNA headline, Dec. 3, 2019

Look at this headline (left), which came out almost immediately from the Catholic News Agency (CNA) on Twitter, with its scandalous assertion that Sheen was part and parcel of this whole sordid, sex abuse cover-up evil.

And extremely important here: The case CNA cited originally had nothing to do with this newest case of Guli. They published an entirely different account that had been discredited years earlier.

The bishops' news agency — CNA — then quickly changed the headline to soften its over-the-top, click-bait wording, but kept the article essentially the same.

That case that CNA couldn't wait to crow about was actually already vetted in the beatification process and the civil court where it was determined to be so over-the-top that the lawyer who brought the case back in 2007 was actually sanctioned by the court for filing it. But you would have to read very down deep into the article to find that nugget of perspective. The big nothing burger that this false accusation is didn't stop Catholic News Agency from pushing it out there. Disgusting.

You wonder if Dolan or Cupich called CNA and told them to print that garbage.

The whiny Christopher Lamb of the U.K. Tablet also couldn't wait to pile on Sheen and bring up already-settled stuff, stuff again that has been vetted and Sheen has been completely cleared of.

But if all that wasn't enough, Elizabeth Scalia — another queen of the Church of Nice and cooperator with Bishop Robert "no one-goes-to-Hell" Barron — actually had the gall to tweet out the implication that the beatification was being held up because Sheen was gay.

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Elizabeth Scalia's tweet, which was deleted 

with an apology after backlash

She called him "flouncy" (code word for feminine and dramatic) and said if it comes out that Sheen was indeed sexually attracted to other men, that he would be a role model for other same-sex attracted men trying to live moral lives.

Seriously! Frankly, what the hell? And we mean Hell! Where do these Church of Nice surrogates and bishop sycophants get off saying this kind of stuff? They are liberal destroyers at heart and want the Church conformed to their view of the faith. 

And in the case of Rochester Bp. Matano — so spooked by the fall-out of the homopredator sex abuse crisis that they pull in big guns to convince the Pope to slam on the brakes.

The so-called Catholic journalists and pundits seem to have no scruples about what they have to say, or what insult they have to hurl or innuendo they have to plant to keep their relationships with the crooked hierarchy.

How is this any different than homoheretic Jesuit James "Brokeback" Martin saying that recently canonized Cdl. John Henry Newman was gay and insinuating he had a lover, and because of that, he is a great role model for modern-day gays in the Church?

These comments, headlines, tweets and insinuations are filthy and scandalous. 

These comments, headlines, tweets and insinuations are filthy and scandalous.Tweet

What's particularly telling, however, is this: This same crowd kept its mouth shut for decades — and still continues to — when it comes to actual gays in the clergy, raping altar boys, seminarians and carrying on active affairs with each other and having gay orgies with male prostitutes in rectories and religious houses. Not a peep. And when it did all start to come out — thanks to reporting by Church Militant and other dedicated, faithful Catholics — they smeared us, saying we made accusations with no proof.

But here, in the case of a bishop on his way to sainthood, they lay out the most scurrilous charges with not one shred of proof or relation to the truth.

Perhaps Matano's deep fears about the N.Y. State attorney general naming Sheen have some merit — but remember, when the Pennsylvania grand jury report came out, there were numerous errors in it.

Matano is more afraid of the N.Y. State AG report and is unwilling to trust the in-depth scrutiny Sheen has already been through — this Guli story included. That applies to Dolan and Cupich as well.

So get the big picture, the bottom line here. Rome has indefinitely delayed a beatification because prelates in the Church are terrified of the bad PR that would emerge if the AG were to include his name on a list — even after all of this had already been vetted, thoroughly, multiple times by both Rome and Peoria.


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KEYWORDS: cupich; dolan; francisbishops; francischism; homos; usccb; wimps
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So get the big picture, the bottom line here. Rome has indefinitely delayed a beatification because prelates in the Church are terrified of the bad PR that would emerge if the AG were to include his name on a list — even after all of this had already been vetted, thoroughly, multiple times by both Rome and Peoria.
1 posted on 12/05/2019 1:32:16 PM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 12/05/2019 1:32:50 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Charlie?......................


3 posted on 12/05/2019 1:39:46 PM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain............)
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To: ebb tide

The very idea that one of the Premier Catholic televangelists would be smeared long after his death is appalling.

My family’s Faith grew as we watched the Good Archbishop swirl his cloak to and from his blackboard to explain the wonders of our spiritual heritage

DC has it’s SWAMP

We Catholics have our PIG STY.

BOTH seem to need a big Spring Cleaning

I’m VERY close to wondering along with Peter, “Lord, to whom else shall we go?”


4 posted on 12/05/2019 1:48:43 PM PST by Oscar in Batangas (January 20, 2017, High Noon. The end of an error.)
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To: ebb tide

I thought this was going to be a thread bashing Charlie Sheen.

I felt sorry for what Charlie did to his career until he raved against Trump.


5 posted on 12/05/2019 1:57:33 PM PST by treetopsandroofs
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To: Red Badger

“Charlie?......................”

that was my first thought ...


6 posted on 12/05/2019 2:02:32 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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7 posted on 12/05/2019 2:08:07 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ebb tide

For those of you mentioning Charlie Sheen there is actaully a connection. His father Martin Sheen took his stage surname from Fulton Sheen.


8 posted on 12/05/2019 2:11:00 PM PST by FewsOrange
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To: FewsOrange

The character “Sheen” from Jimmy Neutron, his last name is actually “Estevez”, which is Martin Sheen’s real last name.


9 posted on 12/05/2019 2:15:06 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ebb tide
"She called him "flouncy""

His old shows are on YouTube. He was pretty darn fabulous. He designed his own outfit.

I don't think he should be smeared for anything 60 years later.

10 posted on 12/05/2019 2:49:18 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: treetopsandroofs

“thought this was going to be a thread bashing Charlie Sheen.”

I think his father took the stage name Sheen based on Fulton Sheen.


11 posted on 12/05/2019 2:51:48 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ebb tide

Anything is possible, of course, and I did not know him.

I don’t believe it, though.

At any event, his TV teachings were often of exceptional value ... to many Catholic and non-Catholic alike.

I am saddened that any apparently very good person gets his name smeared, and especially years after his death so that he can’t even respond.

We have a big problem with a lot of very, very stale allegations being hurled against people ... 20, 30, 50 years after something supposedly happened. This is grossly unfair at its core, and its causing a lot of pain and suffering. There are “statutes of limitations” requiring most kinds of claims to be brought forward within a reasonable time so that they can be fairly and properly adjudicated (witnesses still available and with reasonably decent memories of events, any documents still in existence, etc.). But when it comes to allegations within the church or any other community of faith? There’s apparently no limit on just how long a claimant can sit on his/her arse and keep silent... before absolutely ruining other people’s reputations and, often, the rest of their lives.

I, for one, prefer to remember Sheen for the very positive and uplifting, encouraging way he spoke with us on the TV, even tho that was 40 some years ago?

I, for one, am totally uninterested in hearing any such charges against him..at this late, late, very late date and so long after his passing.

Just Moi. My comments are worth what you paid for them, smile smile


12 posted on 12/05/2019 3:07:57 PM PST by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: ebb tide

This is no surprise. There is no way the current power structure advances Sheen toward sainthood.


13 posted on 12/05/2019 3:16:37 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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To: ebb tide

God will take care of this. When Bishop Sheen was still alive, there were those in the Church back then that felt he was growing too powerful and could counter the pope and the vatican. Apparently, a remnant of that resistance is still alive in the Church. Bishop Sheen was a good man and will ultimately be recognized for who and what he was by the Church. I am not surprised that a Jesuit pope would bite on this resistance. If he were a man of God, he would not be snowed by Cupich and his pals. Among people not tarnished by this nonsense, there are those who know who Bishop Sheen was and will be praying that this silliness does not continue.


14 posted on 12/05/2019 3:17:00 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: ebb tide

So many skulls waiting to help pave that road to Hell.


15 posted on 12/05/2019 3:23:36 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: ebb tide

According to the New Testament, believers are saints already. Upstairs, HE confirms that, not this corrupt process.


16 posted on 12/05/2019 3:29:01 PM PST by Moonmad27
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To: ebb tide

I’m not Catholic but my voice instructor is very active in the Peoria diocese music program and will be directing the choir at this ceremony. He recruited me to join them. I felt very honored. Now we’re getting jerked around. He’s livid about it.


17 posted on 12/05/2019 4:39:07 PM PST by CrazyIvan (The Democrat party. A collaboration of Cloward-Piven and Dunning-Kruger.)
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To: ebb tide

I used to watch his show as a kid and enjoyed it. I have seen reruns recently on a catholic religious channel and was amazed how well his shows stand the test of time.

My is that it is pure jealousy and that his shows and their teachings are still relevant today as they were over 60 years ago.

Bishop Sheen was an honorable man that I still have great respect for, shame on these Cardinals.


18 posted on 12/05/2019 4:52:24 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: ebb tide

Archbishop Sheen was a very, very vocal opponent of communism. Most of his TV shows dealt with explaining why. He was also very orthodox and I believe I read that he had many doubts about the direction Vatican II was going. I was really actually shocked when his cause for beatification moved forward. The Dolan thing with not releasing the body to Peoria was petty. Who knows why ...

Bottom line: traditional + anti-communist = Archbishop Bad.


19 posted on 12/05/2019 4:57:45 PM PST by nanetteclaret (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: ifinnegan

Yes, thanks.

“He adopted his stage name, Martin Sheen, from a combination of the CBS casting director, Robert Dale Martin, who gave him his first big break, and the televangelist archbishop, Fulton J. Sheen.[16] In a 2003 Inside the Actors Studio interview, Sheen explained,”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Sheen


20 posted on 12/05/2019 5:05:04 PM PST by treetopsandroofs
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