Cardinal Walter Brandmüller, a president emeritus of the Pontifical Committee for Historical Sciences, has warned that proceeding down this path one that questions the Church's teachings on the celibate, male priesthood; homosexuality; and marriage could lead to a national church without nearly any ties to Rome. The dubia cardinal stated that this would be certainly be the surest path into the final decline of the German Church.
1 posted on
12/10/2019 1:48:45 PM PST by
ebb tide
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2 posted on
12/10/2019 1:49:40 PM PST by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: ebb tide
the German church died today.
no hope.
3 posted on
12/10/2019 1:50:28 PM PST by
teeman8r
(Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
To: ebb tide
That actually appears to be the case these days.
4 posted on
12/10/2019 1:52:07 PM PST by
MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
(Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
To: ebb tide
5 posted on
12/10/2019 1:53:53 PM PST by
karnage
To: ebb tide
Hell is going to be busy applying for building permits to make room for these guys.
6 posted on
12/10/2019 1:54:41 PM PST by
lastchance
(Credo.)
To: ebb tide
I hate this kind of reporting. The German prelates did NOT proclaim that adultery is grave. They denied, beyond reason admittedly, that 2nd marriages don’t constitute adultery. God forbid anyone see such a headline and conclude that the Church says sleeping around when you’re married isn’t grave!
7 posted on
12/10/2019 1:57:58 PM PST by
dangus
To: ebb tide
Wrong! Treating homosexuals with the same level of respect and dignity as anyone else, OK. Compromising basic Judeo Christian principles to embrace sinful lifestyles, NOT OK
8 posted on
12/10/2019 2:00:41 PM PST by
Impala64ssa
(Virtue signalling is no virtue)
To: ebb tide
Don’t see that “proclaimed” in my Bible. Are they confused about their proper role, or something?
9 posted on
12/10/2019 2:08:00 PM PST by
RatRipper
To: ebb tide
Modern day Martin Luthers. They choose the world over God.
10 posted on
12/10/2019 2:11:23 PM PST by
Grey182
(A Catholic Bishop Emeritus is still a Bishop, a Pope Emeritus... 209.157.64.200)
To: lightman
The German Catholic Church finally went around the bend and off the cliff; it’s dead now.
11 posted on
12/10/2019 2:16:58 PM PST by
Carriage Hill
(A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
To: ebb tide
‘The Commission for Marriage and Family of the German Bishops Conference has come to a consensus that homosexuality is a normal form of sexual predisposition.’
So what is next? Pedophilia, beastiality? Probably so.
To: ebb tide
15 posted on
12/10/2019 2:32:05 PM PST by
william clark
(Ecclesiastes 10:2)
To: ebb tide
They have ceased to be Catholic
they’re vile heretics in the same mold as the Arian “bishops” millennia ago
We learned The Faith decades ago; we know The Faith. These so called “bishops” have deviated from Truth, not we who keep The Faith we learned in our youth.
16 posted on
12/10/2019 2:42:23 PM PST by
NorthMountain
(... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
To: ebb tide
Next, murder is good because it sends people to God.
19 posted on
12/10/2019 2:46:49 PM PST by
Secret Agent Man
(Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
To: ebb tide
I’m sure this will play well with their muslim overlords.
21 posted on
12/10/2019 2:55:02 PM PST by
cld51860
(Volo pro veritas)
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Note the irony of the pairing of this proclamation with today's Epistle Lesson from 1 Timothy as read in the Orthodox Church:
Timothy, my son, we know that the law is good, if any one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, immoral persons, sodomites, kidnapers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance with the glorious gospel of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted.
22 posted on
12/10/2019 3:04:21 PM PST by
lightman
(The Millenials are asleep in their "wokeness".)
To: ebb tide
Abortion was a step to the decline, when murder was allowed and sanctioned by the Church, Divorce is another, and adultery is another. Now homosexuality. The question is, why bother with Church at all? since you disagree with the Old and New Testament, why even use the bible at all? It doesn’t make any sense
To: ebb tide
adultery not grave One of the spouses might argue with this. Someone is hurt by someone.
26 posted on
12/10/2019 3:44:50 PM PST by
Right Wing Assault
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To: ebb tide
The church is the church no more. It is over and done for.
28 posted on
12/10/2019 4:02:06 PM PST by
Wuli
To: ebb tide
“”teaches that sexual relationships formed after a divorce are neither gravely sinful nor a bar to the reception of Holy Communion.””
At least that’s in accordance with the definition of adultery in the Ten Commandments but the other - tell me where I’ll find that!
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