Posted on 01/08/2020 6:36:01 AM PST by Antoninus
I haven't followed the doings of the SSPX very closely (at all) but I understand 3 years ago Pope Francis gave permission for the SSPX to ordain priests without having to ask the regular diocesan bishop. Surprised me at the time, because I hardly thought PF would be gracious or accommodating to Traditionalists.
Anyone want to explain that to me?
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The Bible is #1. It helps to read before posting. Try it. Bigot.
Whoa! You list 30 quotes that emphasize faith and grace. Great. We all (Protestant/Catholic/Orthodox) say salvation is by grace through faith. Protestants add ‘alone’. These quotes do not!
Many of your quotes are from the SAME documents as the original list which were described as Catholic propaganda.
I asked for a list of documents, not quotes about a single subject from the same documents as the ‘propaganda’
By the way, As an Orthodox Christian, I don’t care about “Catholicism’s claims”. If you read the documents themselves, you will not find them to read like Protestant documents.
Oops! Only three.
Sixty Six books that every Christian should read
I did read it.
My statement stands true.
Whoa! You list 30 quotes that emphasize faith and grace. Great. We all (Protestant/Catholic/Orthodox) say salvation is by grace through faith. Protestants add ‘alone’. These quotes do not!
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Read numbers 6, 13, 14, 16, 20, and 21. You’ll note a little 5-letter word that the “Protestants added.” The word... ALONE.
Next time you try to use a now-disproven Catholic talking point, how about you actually do some reading first?
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Sure. Try again clown.
I really don't have time to waste with you tonight.
The problem is that it dropped 7 OT books. Not good.
Hey pal, there’s a KJV of the Bible thanks to the preceding 1,600 years of Catholicism. It’s called civilization. Read about it.
There’s a KJV bible in spite of Roman Catholicism. It’s in all the history books. Now, run along and obey your pope.
History didn’t begin with the KJV bible. Dope.
You mean in addition to the 66 Books Of The Bible ? That is all you really need aside from things it materially provides for (like eyes, reason, the Holy Spirit, teachers, and normal knowledge of language and sense of literary genre, and a little history, etc.) to overall understand what the NT church believed. Other books can expand depth of understanding and show how and where good application was made, or deviation.
And as said even some Catholic researchers (among others) themselves provide evidence against RC propaganda .
It doesn't have to be as long.
Already mentioned 3. Schaff 's History of the Christian Church is old and very well-known. Here are some recommendations by conservative (not that there should be any other) Protestants:
https://www.ligonier.org/blog/church-history-recommended-reading/
https://reformedbooksonline.com/topics/topics-by-subject/church-history/
https://www.bloggingtheologically.com/2015/01/23/5-books-church-history/
If the whole of early church writings seem catholic what does that tell us?
I nowhere used the word "whole," but if the whole of NT church writings do not seem Catholic (capital C) in distinctive then what does that tell us?
He did but not all are happy w/ it, at least its scope: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/german-bishops-contradict-pope-with-ban-on-traditional-order-presiding-at-w
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"ALL Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness..."
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Except the other 7 were never accepted by the church as a whole like the rest of Scripture was.
Now, run along and play somewhere.
You really don't want to advance this argument.
You will find Roman Catholic writers also advanced the argument of faith alone.
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