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[Barf Alert] Turkish bishops won’t contest plan to turn ancient cathedral into a mosque
Crux ^ | June 19, 2020 | Jonathan Luxmoore

Posted on 06/19/2020 12:46:23 PM PDT by ebb tide

[Barf Alert] Turkish bishops won’t contest plan to turn ancient cathedral into a mosque

Catholic bishops in Turkey pledged not to contest plans to turn Istanbul’s ancient Hagia Sophia cathedral that now serves as a museum into a Muslim place of worship.

In announcing their decision June 18, the bishops backed government claims that the monument’s future is a question of national sovereignty.

“We are a church deprived of juridical status, so we cannot give any advice on this country’s internal questions,” the Turkish bishops’ conference said in a statement sent to Catholic News Service.

“Although we would wish Hagia Sophia to retain its character as a museum, it isn’t for us to intervene or even give our opinion on a decision which solely concerns the Republic of Turkey,” the bishops said.

The statement came amid international protests against Turkish government calls for the 6th-century landmark to be converted into a mosque. A plan for the conversion was expected to be approved by Turkey’s highest court July 2.

The bishops said Hagia Sophia, which St. Paul VI, St. John Paul II, Pope Benedict XVI and Pope Francis have visited, originated as “a church in communion with Rome,” but became Orthodox after the 1054 schism between eastern and western churches. It later served for nearly five centuries as a mosque following the Ottoman capture of Constantinople, today’s Istanbul, in 1453.

However, the Orthodox church in neighboring Greece rejected the planned conversion, describing Hagia Sophia as “a masterpiece of architectural genius, globally renowned as one of the preeminent monuments of Christian civilization.”

“Any change will provoke strong protest and frustration among Christians worldwide, as well as harming Turkey itself,” the church’s governing synod said June 12.

The cathedral, founded by Emperor Justinian I on the site of two earlier churches, was the world’s largest at its dedication in 537. It became a museum in 1935 under modern Turkey’s founder, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.

In May, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan confirmed he hoped to annul Ataturk’s decree and reopen the monument to Muslim worship. Abdulahmit Gul, Turkey’s justice minister, told the Anadolu news agency June 15 that the move was “a matter of sovereignty” and reflected the “common wish” of all citizens.

Critics of the move have accused Erdogan’s government of using the planned conversion to boost support for his governing Justice and Development party amid economic hardships exacerbated by the COVID-19 pandemic.

Meanwhile, Russia’s Orthodox Church also called on Turkey to maintain “open access to everyone,” and warned June 8 a change in Hagia Sophia’s status would “violate fragile inter-confessional balances.”

Christian minorities have long complained of discrimination in Turkey and have faced problems recruiting clergy, establishing associations and obtaining building permits.

During a November 2014 visit to Turkey, Pope Francis urged greater tolerance for the Catholic Church. The church continues efforts to reclaim about 200 confiscated properties.

In a June 13 tweet, Archbishop Sahak Masalyan, Armenian Orthodox patriarch of Istanbul, proposed permitting both Muslims and Christians to pray in Hagia Sophia, which attracted 3.3 million visitors annually before the pandemic. He said the two faiths could not afford “the luxury of a new cross and crescent dispute.”

UNESCO, which declared Hagia Sophia a World Heritage site in 1985, confirmed that a change in the monument’s use would require international consultation.


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Hagia Sophia, Turkish Ayasofya, Latin Sancta Sophia, also called Church of the Holy Wisdom or Church of the Divine Wisdom, cathedral built at Constantinople (now Istanbul, Turkey) in the 6th century ce (532–537) under the direction of the Byzantine emperor Justinian I. By general consensus, it is the most important Byzantine structure and one of the world’s great monuments.
1 posted on 06/19/2020 12:46:23 PM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 06/19/2020 12:46:59 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Christians, normally we are on the same side and I don't like calling you out, but don't, don't let this stand.

You are turning the other cheek right into irrelevance.

3 posted on 06/19/2020 12:49:15 PM PDT by KC_Lion
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To: ebb tide

https://huntingbond.com/hagia-sophia-istanbul-james-bond/


4 posted on 06/19/2020 12:50:45 PM PDT by AJFavish (www.allanfavish.com)
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To: ebb tide

Is anyone surprised. Under Jorge Bergoglio, Cardinals, Archbishops and Bishops throughout the world have come out of hiding, and the vast majority have shown themselves to be gutless wonders who are anything but Roman Catholic. Close your wallets and purses to these faux Catholics.


5 posted on 06/19/2020 12:51:36 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: ebb tide

https://jamesbondlocations.blogspot.com/2017/06/bond-and-tania-meet-in-hagia-sophia.html


6 posted on 06/19/2020 12:52:39 PM PDT by AJFavish (www.allanfavish.com)
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To: ebb tide
First, it is obscene that the Turks may do this. However, this statement at the end of the blurb gave me a chuckle:

UNESCO, which declared Hagia Sophia a World Heritage site in 1985, confirmed that a change in the monument’s use would require international consultation.

No it doesn't. The Turks can do whatever they want, and there isn't a damn thing UNESCO can do to even slow it down.

7 posted on 06/19/2020 12:54:40 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: KC_Lion

Let’s not be too hard on Christians in Turkey. They are a whittled down hated minority & Erdogan can sic the Muslim mobs on them in an instant to burn their remaining churches and kill as many as possible.

The Turkish bishops’ statement can be read between the lines: “We’re hostages in our own country and there’s nothing we can do about it, except try not to bring Erdogan’s wrath down on us.”


8 posted on 06/19/2020 1:05:36 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("Pres. Trump doesn't wear glasses. That's because he's got 2020.")
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To: ebb tide
It may be of interest to the discussion that Hagia Sofia is right on a big earthquake fault. Sooner or later the whole thing will fall down, and it's something of a miracle that it hasn't already. It has huge fissures in the structure. It could be the Christians have thought about that, and the Muslims have not.
9 posted on 06/19/2020 1:07:47 PM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: ebb tide

Ritual humiliation, hallmarks of The Left and Islam.


10 posted on 06/19/2020 1:14:10 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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Of course not. Christians like to turn their limitless supply of other cheeks and Muslims like to slap them.


11 posted on 06/19/2020 1:19:01 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you.)
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“Ritual humiliation, hallmarks of The Left and Islam“

Why now, it’s been the way it is for maybe 100 years, not a church, not a mosque. That was a good compromise.


12 posted on 06/19/2020 1:19:11 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: ebb tide

Didn’t Turkey slaughter brutally 2 million Christians not too long ago?


13 posted on 06/19/2020 1:21:05 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: elcid1970

Exactly. A statement clearly made under duress should not be taken at face value.


14 posted on 06/19/2020 1:21:47 PM PDT by Nothingburger
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To: CdMGuy

Hey wait a minute, isn’t Hagia Sophia an Eastern Orthodox Cathedral? The Roman Catholics have no business giving the Turks permission!


15 posted on 06/19/2020 1:26:16 PM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: ebb tide

Marvin: Man, I don't even have an opinion.

The result, if you recall, was his brains splattered all over the place.

16 posted on 06/19/2020 1:28:13 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: ebb tide

Hagia Sophia is a Catholic Church; may it return to its former status.


17 posted on 06/19/2020 1:40:19 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ebb tide

I guess we know which side these “bishops” are on. Did they collect their 30 pieces of silver or did they do it for free?


18 posted on 06/19/2020 1:46:27 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: ebb tide

Did they get 30 pieces of silver in return for their endorsement?


19 posted on 06/19/2020 1:46:31 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Spooky that we posted almost the exact same thing at almost the exact same time.


20 posted on 06/19/2020 1:47:20 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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