Here’s another: If the dead in Christ are already with him how is it that there’s a loud voice and the trumpet of God (which we will all see and hear) and THEN they rise?
1 Thessalonians 4:16
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
At then rapture. It’s the dead ion Christ rising not all humanity. This iChrist coming for His Cbirch prior time the tribulation. I get it you are not a pretribber. That’s fine but 4 posts? You will not convince me and I will not convince you so let’s agree to disagree. We will all know soon enough