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To: metmom

Your comment: “Because Jesus did not found the corrupt and immoral organization known as the Catholic church.”

Shows a lack of knowledge of history and non belief in the Truth of Jesus.

The Catholic Church welcomes all sinners as the father (god) welcomed the prodigal son. The Church recognizes the difference from the sin and person made in the image of God that has the opportunity to repent.

The Catholic Church and Jesus call us to change away from sin and confess our sins in the Sacrament of Reconciliation.


9 posted on 07/12/2020 9:04:07 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM

Your spittlegeist is roaring today! Your org is identified by Paul when he warned about the ‘other religions’. Present day Catholicism is the largest cult going. There are so many bold heresies and blasphemies hallmarking your religion, but your dead soul mind is closed to seeing them when revealed to you. May the Lord rebuke you for leading souls astray in Catholicism.


10 posted on 07/12/2020 9:08:24 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: ADSUM
Nice sounding words but in practice, absolutely shown to be not true.

Why doesn't the Vatican follow Paul's instructions for elders and deacons and church discipline?

1 Timothy 3:1-13 The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, he desires a noble task. Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, with all dignity keeping his children submissive, for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God's church? He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover, he must be well thought of by outsiders, so that he may not fall into disgrace, into a snare of the devil.

Deacons likewise must be dignified, not double-tongued, not addicted to much wine, not greedy for dishonest gain. They must hold the mystery of the faith with a clear conscience. And let them also be tested first; then let them serve as deacons if they prove themselves blameless. Their wives likewise must be dignified, not slanderers, but sober-minded, faithful in all things. Let deacons each be the husband of one wife, managing their children and their own households well. For those who serve well as deacons gain a good standing for themselves and also great confidence in the faith that is in Christ Jesus.

Titus 1:5-16 This is why I left you in Crete, so that you might put what remained into order, and appoint elders in every town as I directed you— if anyone is above reproach, the husband of one wife, and his children are believers and not open to the charge of debauchery or insubordination. For an overseer, as God's steward, must be above reproach. He must not be arrogant or quick-tempered or a drunkard or violent or greedy for gain, but hospitable, a lover of good, self-controlled, upright, holy, and disciplined. He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.

For there are many who are insubordinate, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision party. They must be silenced, since they are upsetting whole families by teaching for shameful gain what they ought not to teach. One of the Cretans, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.” This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, not devoting themselves to Jewish myths and the commands of people who turn away from the truth. To the pure, all things are pure, but to the defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure; but both their minds and their consciences are defiled. They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work.

1 Corinthians 5:1-13 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that is not tolerated even among pagans, for a man has his father's wife. And you are arrogant! Ought you not rather to mourn? Let him who has done this be removed from among you.

For though absent in body, I am present in spirit; and as if present, I have already pronounced judgment on the one who did such a thing. When you are assembled in the name of the Lord Jesus and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord.

Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? Cleanse out the old leaven that you may be a new lump, as you really are unleavened. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. Let us therefore celebrate the festival, not with the old leaven, the leaven of malice and evil, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”

That precludes taking communion with someone like that.

2 John 1:4-11 I rejoiced greatly to find some of your children walking in the truth, just as we were commanded by the Father. And now I ask you, dear lady—not as though I were writing you a new commandment, but the one we have had from the beginning—that we love one another. And this is love, that we walk according to his commandments; this is the commandment, just as you have heard from the beginning, so that you should walk in it. For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch yourselves, so that you may not lose what we have worked for, but may win a full reward. Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.

When Catholicism starts living like the church is supposed to according to Scripture, then maybe you can convince people to start calling it one and submitting to its self-proclaimed authority.

But as long as Frank is the pope and there are cocaine fueled homosexual orgies hosted by the Vatican, and pedo priests are protected, then any Catholic's claim to moral authority or superiority falls flat.

Go fix your own church's problems before telling others they are wrong and need to submit to that immoral, corrupt organization that fancies itself God's representative on earth.

There's only one god they are representing at this time and it isn't part of the Trinity.

11 posted on 07/12/2020 11:19:40 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ADSUM

FYI, MHGinTN is a loud mouth’d false prophet. Pay him no mind. His pre trib rapture theory is a lie from Satan. He calls me a cultist and I believe in a post trib rapture, at the end of the world (like you do?). That’s what the bible teaches. Don’t fall for his lies (MHGinTN or Satan). Oh, and do you have any formal biblical training? Evidently you can’t understand any of the bible without it, at least that’s what amoreperfectunion infers. There are a few of the usual suspects on this site. Don’t be fooled. Do your own research and study the scriptures, and pray for understanding. The bible only supports a post trib rapture after the tribulation and AT THE END OF THE WORLD (caps added so MHGinTN won’t miss it). If you have the time try getting through some of this....lots of topics discussed including, but not limited to, the rapture:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3843051/posts

(Thoughts on the Timing of the Rapture)

Don’t be too surprised at how MHGinTN and his friends are treating you right now. They do it to everyone. It will only get worse. If you have a strong mind and a will to present your “truth”, go for it. They think they know the “truth”, but all they know is Satan’s deceptions. If you want a one way ticket to Hell, listen to them. Otherwise I suggest doing your own research. Your chances are better. And know this, MHGinTN and his friends HATE CATHOLICS. I think they hate everyone who isn’t in their little study group. One last thing, if MHGinTN sends you any links to video pre trib rapture nonsense, and you decide to take a chance and watch, take a double dose of pepto bismol first. You will thank me for that advice, believe me.


27 posted on 07/12/2020 3:14:24 PM PDT by Philsworld
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