Communion in the hand was bad enough. Priest tells people to hold hosts in their hands while he consecrates

Fr. Z's Blog ^ | July 15, 2020 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

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Communion in the hand was bad enough. Priest tells people to hold hosts in their hands while he consecrates

If only priests were as hard working to develop reverence in their parishes as they are to facilitate communion-no-matter-what and for-anyone-at-all.

There is a piece at LifeSite, in which I am heavily quoted, about a priest who came up with wacky ideas – astonishingly tacky and irreverent – to facilitate Communion.   It is hard to believe that anyone in this day and would do this.  But, this is the depth to which we have sunk in some places.

The priest put out a video, showing also a map with zones on the parish campus where people, divided into categories, had to be.   Then his suggestions – I am NOT making this up:

• Every family will be provided with a ziplock ‘Mass bag’ which contains “everything you need for Mass except Holy Communion.”

• “Every family will be issued a sacred vessel, and a husband and wife will be designated as Eucharistic ministers for your family.”

• “When you come to church, you bring your sacred vessel and your Mass bag, and then you’ll pick up the appropriate number of hosts for your family, 2, 3, 4, so on.”

• “When it’s time for the offertory, you will take your hosts, unconsecrated, from your zip lock bag and place them into your sacred vessel.”

• “An adult member of your family will hold the sacred vessel for the consecration, the Lord’s Prayer, and the Lamb of God.”

• “At communion time, you will then as adults give communion to each other and one of the adults will give communion to your children, and then you place your sacred vessel back into your Mass bag and you’ll have it ready for next week.”

Link to the 4 minute video:  HERE

There are so many problems with these proposals that it is hard to know where to start.

Here is some of the comments I sent to the writer at LifeSite. He did NOT link to me, for some reason I can’t fathom, so I will provide comments here.   In no particular order…

“Worry free environment” (he talks about that in the video). This smacks of an attitude which is wholly focused on this world, the here and now, the immanent, without regard to, nay rather, through a reduction of the supernatural and eternal to the natural and the worldly.

This is hardly to be distinguished from a Protestant communion service.

How undignified.

I don’t in the least think that this priest intends for all of this to be so infra dignitatem, so tacky. I’m convinced he is well meaning. However, it could be that he is simply so deeply tuned into a modernist frequency that he doesn’t realize how bad this looks, he doesn’t contemplate the potential sacrileges both unintended and intended.

“Sacred vessels” What does that mean? Does it mean a horrid little inexpensive plastic home Communion pyx that were used for in the past? Does it mean something made of metal? In their photo album I spotted one man with a metal pyx, peering at the Host with a bewildered expression.

Furthermore, how are the “sacred vessels” to be purified? The priest says, “Place your sacred vessel back into your Mass bag and you’ll have it ready for next week.” Without purification! Are people just going to shake out particles onto the ground, or, unaware of them, haul them around in their ziplock baggies?

And what is to become of all these “sacred vessels” afterward, whatever they are, when COVID time passes and they are no longer needed? Will people keep them? What happens to them then?

How are people to be designated as “Eucharistic ministers” exactly? A wink and a nudge? The terminology isn’t even correct. Even “Extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion” ought to be instituted formally as such and have sound training. They should be carefully vetted. How are any of these people being given “Mass bags” being vetted?

Does the local Bishop of Biloxi, know about this?

People are to take unconsecrated hosts to be consecrated … at what distance? I looked at the “zones” and their map. There is no way that they are in eyesight of the altar without the obstruction of buildings. How can one be convinced that the consecration was valid? If some of those hosts are NOT consecrated, then people are being lead by the priest to commit, unwittingly, the objective in of idolatry.

And those cases when the consecration would be valid, what’s to prevent people from taking a few extra hosts to be consecrated and then saved for later, at home? Or for that nice lady down the street, not Catholic, but really nice? Or even to be, quod Deus avertat, give or sold to satanists for ghastly rituals and desecration?

These crazy gyrations affirm the findings of the Pew Research survey which revealed plummeting belief in the Church’s teachings about the Blessed Sacrament. And those finding may apply to priests, as well.

Communion in the hand was bad enough, but consecration in the hand and self Communication, having nothing to do with the priest, having nothing to do with the altar, is sacrilege at a new nadir.

These crazy gyrations affirm the findings of the Pew Research survey which revealed plummeting belief in the Church’s teachings about the Blessed Sacrament. And those finding may apply to priests, as well.

It’s like something from another religion.

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It’s like something from another religion.

[Red Badger]

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Ping

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My wife and I just do it at home. “As often as you do this...”

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Yes, it’s like another religion.

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My Methodist Church is locked down, so the pastor reads the communion ritual online and we serve ourselves. For communion, I always use Israeli wine.

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These crazy gyrations affirm the findings of the Pew Research survey which revealed plummeting belief in the Church’s teachings about the Blessed Sacrament. And those finding may apply to priests, as well.

Those findings absolutely do apply to Priests AND some Bishops as well. Its call "Pretendism" - which is even worse than modernism.
And it IS up to the laity to smoke them out... even if it means holding a sign of protest at the Parish driveway educating the "aloof".

[Freee-dame]

Somehow the people who work at the drive-through at McDonald’s or Wendy’s are OK to give out food that you then eat.

[MurphsLaw]

Well if Communion is just a symbol, and has no meaning about it....its a copycat waste of time - and as the lady said about its symbolic nature-
"If it's just a symbol, to hell with it then"

Why bother - or be bothered - by a symbol?

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What else do we expect from the church of the new Vatican II religion? None of this shocks or surprises me anymore.

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What else do we expect from the church of the new Vatican II religion?

In your haste to indict, you do not realize that this foolishness of a particular priest is actually VIOLATING what was proclaimed in Vatican II. You also expose your lack of understanding of the Council with regard to the Eucharist - as it correctly proclaims and places the Holy Eucharist as the SOURCE and HIGHEST ATTAINABLE PEAK of the Christian Faith - affirming the Nature of the REAL PRESENCE. Yes, that's what The Church of the "new" Vatican II "religion" actually said... if you cared to read the documents... Some Council text for you (and this bonehead Priest) to read below:

Taking part in the Eucharistic sacrifice, the source and summit of the Christian life, they offer the divine victim to God and themselves along with it. [6] And so it is that, both in the offering and in Holy Communion, each in his own way, though not of course indiscriminately, has his own part to play in the liturgical action. Then, strengthened by the body of Christ in the Eucharistic communion, they manifest in a concrete way that unity of the People of God which this holy sacrament aptly signifies and admirably realizes.

To accomplish so great a work Christ is always present in his Church, especially in her liturgical celebrations. He is present in the sacrifice of the Mass not only in the person of his minister, "the same now offering, through the ministry of priests, who formerly offered himself on the cross," [20] but especially in the Eucharistic species.

"The Lord left behind a pledge of this hope and strength for life's journey in that sacrament of faith where natural elements refined by man are gloriously changed into His Body and Blood, providing a meal of brotherly solidarity and a foretaste of the heavenly banquet."

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Here's the thing: I'm not referring to a specific teaching about the Eucharist. I am speaking of what happens in a church that's foundation is the false religion of Vatican II.

Meaning....we continue to watch how things morph little by little without any condemnation from the head honcho of the Vatican II religion. And it has... and it will continue to do so...until Vatican II is completely obliterated.

So... in your haste to indict me, you completely miss the bigger picture. But I suspect that you think that Vatican II is Catholic, so I doubt this post will matter to you.