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[Catholic Caucus] Popular priest accuses some Catholics of ‘self-righteousness’ who receive Communion on tongue kneeling
LifeSite News ^ | July 21, 2020 | Peter Kwasniewski

Posted on 07/21/2020 4:31:45 PM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] Popular priest accuses some Catholics of ‘self-righteousness’ who receive Communion on tongue kneeling

'Fr. Longenecker should publicly support Catholics who wish to honor their Lord and God with all their heart, soul, mind, and bodily strength'


At St. Peter’s Basilica on November 3, 2008, Pope Benedict XVI distributes Holy Communion on the tongue to the kneeling faithful.

July 21, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) — On July 19, Fr. Longenecker tweeted the following:

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He begins by setting up an alternative: “Which is better?” It may turn out that neither option is good, as if one were to say: “Which is better? Dying by cyanide or dying by firing squad?”

When he sets up as the first alternative “to receive communion reverently and humbly standing,” he begs the question at issue. Is not the entire debate about the question of whether it is possible for Roman Catholics to receive reverently and humbly if they receive standing and in the hand? (This is not the place to bring in various Eastern Catholic practices; these, in any case, could never be confused with the postconciliar manner in which communion is given in most Novus Ordo parishes.)

Having begged the question, Fr. Longenecker sets up the other alternative, which is a classic caricature, custom-made to prove his point: the Catholic who, with self-righteousness, thinks himself better than others because he receives kneeling and on the tongue. Well, naturally, we’d prefer anyone to such a person, wouldn’t we? It’s like asking, “Do you prefer the kindly Muslim or the axe-murdering Christian?”

But what of all those Catholics, surely not few in number, who want to receive kneeling and on the tongue because it is more conducive to actual devotion? Who humble themselves physically to help them bear in mind the One who is feeding us — or rather, the One with whom we are being fed? Who are not afraid to look odd by lowering themselves or to stand out by not standing up, precisely because they are more concerned with the invisible Lord than with His visible agents? We’re talking, in other words, about the kind of Catholics who attend Fr. Longenecker’s parish, where communion kneeling and on the tongue predominates.

The real question of the day should be framed as follows: “Which is better? To receive Communion in a posture dictated by a millennium of exclusive use — a posture that manifestly suggests our creaturely status and our identity as children before God? Or to receive Communion in a posture re-introduced by liturgical experimenters and more or less flagrant Eucharistic heretics in the 1960s, on the basis either of pseudo-antiquarianism or hyper-modern assumptions about what ‘Christian maturity’ should look like?” The benefit of putting the question this way is that it avoids trying to peek inside people’s hearts, which are notoriously hard to read.

Martin Mosebach is the modern author who has seen with the greatest clarity the meaning of the change from Communion kneeling to Communion standing. Here is how he describes it in The Heresy of Formlessness:

Kneeling was medieval, they said. The early Christians prayed standing. Standing signifies the resurrected Christ, they said; it is the most appropriate attitude for a Christian. The early Christians are also supposed to have received Communion in their hands. What is irreverent about the faithful making their hands into a “throne” for the Host? I grant that the people who tell me such things are absolutely serious about it all. But it becomes very clear that pastors of souls are incredibly remote from the world in these matters; academic arguments are completely useless in questions of liturgy. These scholars are always concerned only about the historical side of the substance of faith and of the forms of devotion. If, however, we think correctly and historically, we should realize that what is an expression of veneration in one period can be an expression of blasphemy in another. If people who have been kneeling for a thousand years suddenly get to their feet, they do not think, “We’re doing this like the early Christians, who stood for the Consecration”; they are not aware of returning to some particularly authentic form of worship. They simply get up, brush the dust from their trouser-legs and say to themselves: “So it wasn’t such a serious business after all.” Everything that takes place in celebrations of this kind implies the same thing: “It wasn’t all that serious after all.” Under such circumstances, anthropologically speaking, it is quite impossible for faith in the presence of Christ in the Sacrament to have any deeper spiritual significance, even if the Church continues to proclaim it and even if the participants of such celebrations go so far as to affirm it explicitly. (14–15)

In contrast stands (if we may put it thus) the wisdom of Benedict XVI, who said on May 22, 2008: “Kneeling in adoration before the Eucharist is the most valid and radical remedy against the idolatries of yesterday and today.” This observation is not limited to times set aside for “Eucharistic Adoration,” where the Host is placed in a monstrance. Kneeling is the appropriate response to the Real Presence of the Lord. This is why we kneel for the Eucharistic Prayer, in which the miracle of transubstantiation takes place; this is why we kneel for the most intimate moment of Communion, because — like the Magi, like Jairus, like Mary of Bethany — we know who it is into whose presence we have come. We have come to adore, to receive, to abide, and to love.

Fr. Longenecker himself knows all this. He knows it well, for he writes in his latest book, Letters on Liturgy (Angelico Press, 2020):

One of the most instrumental factors in developing reverence at Mass is how we receive communion. While the faithful can certainly be reverent in receiving communion in the hand while standing, no one can disagree that receiving communion on the tongue while kneeling is more reverent. Why is this? Firstly, because kneeling in our Western culture is an intrinsic act of devotion, homage, and worship. This is true no matter what the context. Knights kneel to receive their knighthood from the Queen. Bride and groom kneel to receive a nuptial blessing. To receive communion on the tongue is a sign of belief in the real presence of Christ’s Body and Blood in the Eucharistic host, because a sign that you are intent not to profane the Body of Christ by dropping it or soiling it in any way. (p. 51; cf. p. 118)

Equipped with this knowledge, Fr. Longenecker should publicly support Catholics who wish to honor their Lord and God with all their heart, soul, mind, and bodily strength, in the midst of a Church whose own leaders often seem hell-bent against allowing it to happen.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: dwightlongenecker; hooves; paws; presumption; vcii

1 posted on 07/21/2020 4:31:46 PM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 07/21/2020 4:35:14 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
I am VERY surprised that he wrote this.

I have not read much of what he has written in the past but he seemed more temperate than this.

3 posted on 07/21/2020 4:40:25 PM PDT by Captain Walker
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To: Captain Walker

I am not surprised, and I have read only two pieces by Longenecker. This is disgraceful.


4 posted on 07/21/2020 4:44:20 PM PDT by Bigg Red (WWG1WGA)
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To: ebb tide

Many years ago, while I was in college, my Catholic girl friend took me to the local ‘church’. It shared a building with a ‘Quickie mart’ and on Sundays it was overflowing. There was no place to sit—we stood for the service. This was during the last days of the Latin Mass. The priest was so good, that you could understand what he was saying—that’s the only I way I can describe it. Communion was received (I didn’t, I wasn’t Catholic) standing up.

I felt like I was taken back to services in Roman times. I was ready to convert, but my girlfriend said not to convert because of the priest, because the next priest might not be so good.


5 posted on 07/21/2020 4:45:28 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: hanamizu
I was ready to convert, but my girlfriend said not to convert because of the priest, because the next priest might not be so good.

Your "catholic" girlfriend was poorly catechized; she did you a disservice.

7 posted on 07/21/2020 4:58:17 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Bigg Red

*** I am not surprised, and I have read only two pieces by Longenecker. ***

As someone on Twitter said, “Longnecker may have left Bob Jones, but Bob Jones never left Longnecker.”


8 posted on 07/21/2020 5:05:36 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: Bigg Red
He's a convert from Anglicanism; the members of the Tiber Swim Team are usually rock solid.

Let's hope he takes a lot of flak over this.

9 posted on 07/21/2020 5:10:24 PM PDT by Captain Walker
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To: ebb tide

Your “catholic” girlfriend was poorly catechized; she did you a disservice.


I get your point. But the priest involved was nothing short of amazing. He had been a missionary in the Congo, so being a missionary to a college town is probably was pretty easy for him. He finally did get a real church after I graduated, but the Masses in the little hole in the wall were really something special and perhaps unique—crowded together, hearing the Latin, but somehow understanding it, the priest amongst us, not up at an altar made the Mass very intimate.


10 posted on 07/21/2020 5:17:03 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: ebb tide

We are obliged to impute the most charitable understanding as plausible in these situations. Accusing someone of being self-righteous simply because he maintains a traditional posture is at best detraction.


11 posted on 07/21/2020 5:19:10 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: ebb tide

He’s a modernist. Always has been


13 posted on 07/21/2020 6:25:44 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel & a deplorable.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Please respect a catholic caucus.


14 posted on 07/21/2020 6:56:16 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

After graduating from the fundamentalist Bob Jones University with a degree in Speech and English, Dwight Longnecker went to study theology at Oxford University.


15 posted on 07/21/2020 8:19:38 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: ebb tide
We’re talking, in other words, about the kind of Catholics who attend Fr. Longenecker’s parish, where communion kneeling and on the tongue predominates.

I'm confused. If communion kneeling and on the tongue predominates in his parish, why did he make the tweet that he did? Something seems off here. Was there something more to the tweet? Was there another tweet he was responding to?

16 posted on 07/22/2020 4:38:45 AM PDT by piusv (Francis didn't start the Fire)
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